Eddie Howe

[SteV]

4 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

 never seen the pitch at any level higher than the academy but aye chuck him in at the Velodrome.

 

Almost as daft as the suggestion that we should remove our in-form, goal-scoring winner from his current position.

Ignoring the fact it’s ridiculous to think he’s currently anywhere near being able to contribute to an elite level game, other than as an emergency for a short period, there was no sign of him for the U19’s this afternoon, so must be something wrong with him.

[Heron]

2 minutes ago, nufc4eva said:

He is for what he's delivered but how is he evolving the team and squad. He likely wanted Ramsey and Elanga, keeps trying to play same way and isn't working, our levels have dropped and our style isn't working so what has he done to address it.

 

I think it's fine to ask questions given how much spent and the players he signed and yet the football is reaching Bruce levels right now.

I didn't say people couldn't ask questions. I said he is still the king, and he is.

 

We are a little less than one third of the way into the season and have barely had a full strength side out yet. We have been either striker-less or without our star full backs who are pivotal to our style of play.

 

My one criticism of Howe presently would be starting Pope. That has to stop. Other than that there is a logic to his decisions.

 

Ramsay has bene injured and Elanga (I read) is struggling to settle but also isn't playing great, so it protects him to play him less when he is struggling. Other players may prefer to be played and work through it, I'll trust his judgement on that.

 

I think criticism can absolutely be levelled where it's justified but a lot of what I read on both here and WhatsApp is unjustifiable a lot of the time, it seems to be people finding problems rather than considering solutions, or considering what the viable alternatives are or would be.

 

The vast, vast majority of what Eddie Howe does is with much consideration and logic, far more than that being applied by us, myself included.

[samptime29]

5 minutes ago, Heron said:

A win this evening would have been perfect for us that's what is frustrating. It would leave Leverkusen as the kind of, allowable outcome that we had tonight ahead of a pressured derby day and to rotate a tad more across this busy 6 or 7 weeks.

 

Pope cost us that. I am sure Eddie knows that too.

 

However, let's say we get a win at PSV and losses in all both our remaining CL away games, we likely still go through, if not automatically, do the qualifiers for sure.

 

We are capable of going on long winning runs as a squad as has been proven before. So no doubt that Eddie remains the king for me.

 

1 win or 2 draws from 3 games will get us into the playoffs. We are still in a good position.

[samptime29]

8 minutes ago, nufc4eva said:

He is for what he's delivered but how is he evolving the team and squad. He likely wanted Ramsey and Elanga, keeps trying to play same way and isn't working, our levels have dropped and our style isn't working so what has he done to address it.

 

I think it's fine to ask questions given how much spent and the players he signed and yet the football is reaching Bruce levels right now.

 

Fucking hell 

[Big Geordie]

11 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Not helped by his transfer business either and he’s saddled the club with 2 very average players in Elanga and Ramsey for big money.

 

There's time for both of these lads to come good. 

[Yorkie]

Just now, Big Geordie said:

12 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Not helped by his transfer business either and he’s saddled the club with 2 very average players in Elanga and Ramsey for big money.

 

There's time for both of these lads to come good

 

I continue to be completely mystified about Ramsey being thrown in with Elanga. I think he's looked decent every time he's played and not sure what he's done wrong. 

[SteV]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

I continue to be completely mystified about Ramsey being thrown in with Elanga. I think he's looked decent every time he's played and not sure what he's done wrong. 

I would go with ‘OK’ rather than ‘decent’, but you know how it works, the only two acceptable opinions are ‘brilliant’ or ‘shite’.

[Bimpy474]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

I continue to be completely mystified about Ramsey being thrown in with Elanga. I think he's looked decent every time he's played and not sure what he's done wrong. 

 

And do we ever learn not to write players off too early ?

 

Agree on Ramsey, looked OK every time I've seen him. Elanga needs to pull his finger out as he's not been good, but I'm not writing him off after 3 months. 

[Dr Venkman]

24 minutes ago, nufc4eva said:

He is for what he's delivered but how is he evolving the team and squad. He likely wanted Ramsey and Elanga, keeps trying to play same way and isn't working, our levels have dropped and our style isn't working so what has he done to address it.

 

I think it's fine to ask questions given how much spent and the players he signed and yet the football is reaching Bruce levels right now.

[Dr Venkman]

27 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Not helped by his transfer business either and he’s saddled the club with 2 very average players in Elanga and Ramsey for big money.

What is this Ramsey nonsense man?

[huss9]

"He saved us many times. He made some really good saves against Manchester City just two days ago. That's the life of a goalkeeper. But I'll certainly back him."

 

there was no need to say anything.

no one should be guaranteed a spot.

[The Prophet]

He was always going to publicly back him, if asked.

[nufc4eva]

2 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

Do you see anything that isn't absolutely dreadful this season. The football has been rank and that's with supposedly a lot more quality than Bruce had. Now I hate Bruce and love Eddie for what he has brought to the club but the football is utterly shit, we get dominated by teams and attack like we have never played together, added to that his persistence with same style ( high press, low intensity, leave the middle of pitch wide open, score a goal and then sit and don't bother with keeping the ball), nothing screams elite manager right now and tactics/on ball and off ball play is just horrible to watch.

[midds]

I think a lot of the frustration stems from the fact that a lot of the negatives of this season seem very much self-inflicted. We're our own worst enemy in many ways. This constant pattern of starting well, going ahead and then (sub)consciously letting the intensity drop , sitting off and letting the opposition we're leading have the ball - which gives them confidence and a foothold in the game which inevitably leads to an equaliser is fucking painful to watch. 

 

We're not executing any of the basics of the game well enough either. I'm talking about passing, movement, communication, dwelling on the ball, crossing, set-piece delivery, playing the ball to players under pressure, getting dispossessed, bad touches, shit throws, poor corners it's basically the basic stuff that professional footballers need to be at least competent at. I'm not expecting Ronaldinho dribbles beating 5, I'm not expecting glorious 70 yard raker passes on the diag, I'm talking about basic skills that simply aren't being executed well enough across the entire pitch

 

Mental mistakes are also killing us. The amount of soft goals we concede is embarrassing, we're carved open with a single simple pass, horrendous keeping mistake, ridiculous og, caught in possession leading to a simple finish etc. Opposition don't even need to do anything spectacular, just take advantage of the dogshit play and score with ease.

 

Genuinely worry Howe will get sacked because his players simply can't do the basics - he's responsible at the end of the day but his players are often  fucking shocking and putting him in danger

[SteV]

38 minutes ago, nufc4eva said:

Do you see anything that isn't absolutely dreadful this season

We’ve just won 6 home games on the spin.

 

I appreciate emotions run wild immediately after games, especially defeats, and it’s often best to just let people get the rants off, without picking them up on stuff, but this is absolutely ridiculous.

[Kid Icarus]

2 hours ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said:

Premier league experience Anthony Elanga barely looks like a footballer for £55m

 

Jacob Ramsey looks average for £40m

 

Considering how tight we are with FFP, thats a fucking massive waste of money by Howe like 

If they turn out to be great this time next year will you learn your lesson?

[Kid Icarus]

1 hour ago, huss9 said:

"He saved us many times. He made some really good saves against Manchester City just two days ago. That's the life of a goalkeeper. But I'll certainly back him."

 

there was no need to say anything.

no one should be guaranteed a spot.

Course there was, it's in his and everyone's best interests to back Pope.

[Decky]

If we lose away again this weekend it won't look good. Our away form is fucking brutal. I'm a big Howe fan but I can see a good portion of the support turning.

[Kid Icarus]

Why would Everton away be that match? Doesn't really make sense to me, they're in good form, at home, we've historically struggled against them away, and they're miles better than times we've lost against them while we've dropped off. I'm not seeing it.

[r0cafella]

I think Ramsey hasn't looked bad but ultimately football is a numbers business and his contribution in terms of goals and assists is zero and given he was last off the bench and Willock started it's not looking great is it?

 

It could well be the beading in period we know is a thing but if we buy players with " premier league experience" why is such beading in periods needed. 

[cubaricho]

2 hours ago, Yorkie said:

 

I continue to be completely mystified about Ramsey being thrown in with Elanga. I think he's looked decent every time he's played and not sure what he's done wrong. 

Totally agree.
 

When people put them together I know I can immediately stop considering their opinion on anything NUFC related. 

[TRC]

16 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Why would Everton away be that match? Doesn't really make sense to me, they're in good form, at home, we've historically struggled against them away, and they're miles better than times we've lost against them while we've dropped off. I'm not seeing it.

We need a good performance against Everton, if we get a Brentford or West Ham away performance again then I think a defeat at the mackems would make most turn.

[r0cafella]

9 minutes ago, cubaricho said:

Totally agree.
 

When people put them together I know I can immediately stop considering their opinion on anything NUFC related. 

It's the lack of output unfortunately, he looks tidy but his role is basically our most advanced midfield so he has to be creating and scoring chances. None of which he's done (this is not a knock on him) 

 

He's new and we obviously have to be patient though. 

[TheBrownBottle]

I don’t think Ramsay has done owt wrong tbh, but I think it’s probably the fee (hardly his fault) which is raising the ire of some.  The 2025 version of Willock starting ahead of will definitely lead to questions as to why Howe bought him - again, a ‘PL-ready’ signing.  I’m playing devils advocate on this one - I still think the lad is a good player. 

[andycap]

I do believe if your gonna have to rest hall or tino for fitness our options of working the ball up the pitch diminish significantly. 

That's where Ramsdale should come into the team to fizz balls into tonali bruno past there press and put us on the attack in dangerous areas.

I think if he started tonight we'd of won quite comfortably.