Smal Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 (edited) I think that’s the most frustrated I’ve been watching us under Howe. I love him and if he ever goes it should be on his own terms imo, but if he doesn’t come up with an in possession plan then he ultimately won’t keep his job for that long. This is a very expensive football team that is unbelievable out of possession but looks all too often like a relegation candidate with the ball in more or less all phases of the game. Edited December 30, 2025 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 He didn’t know how to change the game in the second half and just ended up doing nothing. We’re lucky they couldn’t finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 1 minute ago, Unlucky Luque said: Need to amend our "no arseholes" policy. Togetherness and work-rate only gets you so far. We have a lot of nice lads in the squad, but no real winners who'll demand a performance. Isak is a rat, but sometimes stone-cold elites with no heart are needed pull the level up to match them. I have been on various internet sports forums for the better part of three decades, and I have to say, this is the first time I've seen the "we need to sign more players of poor character" take Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Celebrating this win is delusional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Thing is… the style is the same but we are doing it badly. Today we won and showed some of that grit we’ve been missing. I do think we are in need of a tactical tweak or something that gives us a new lease of life. We look second best physically too often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Against even a half decent side we lose that. Probably by a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Lucky today, that was poor from Howe. Just sat and watched Burnley batter us and hope for the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Only team to Burnley twice in December. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 1 minute ago, Smal said: I think that’s the most frustrated I’ve been watching us under Howe. I love him and if he ever goes it should be on his own terms imo, but if he doesn’t come up with an in possession plan then he ultimately won’t keep his job for that long. This is a very expensive football team that is unbelievable out of possession but looks all too often like a relegation candidate with the ball in more or less all phases of the game. Thats never been his style though. We see games out - out of possession. And we create chances largely based on our of possession pressing. It’s worked for us but we aren’t doing it well at the moment. We also can’t defend well if the press doesn’t work. Previously we could grind out clean sheets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 I do wonder if he is persisting with this sit back routine when we go ahead to get us through it with a win or two and build confidence defensively. We were extremely good defensively in his first full season and I wonder if that is the aim. Grab a lead and hold onto it, issue being we cannot hold a fart in at the moment but he’s hoping when we do, it’ll start to click. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Will everybody be happy with the team dressing room photo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, Aiston said: Lucky today, that was poor from Howe. Just sat and watched Burnley batter us and hope for the best. Bless, you’re so seething we won you’re making stuff up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: Thing is… the style is the same but we are doing it badly. Today we won and showed some of that grit we’ve been missing. I do think we are in need of a tactical tweak or something that gives us a new lease of life. We look second best physically too often. I didn’t see any grit, we were carved open time after time in the second half and it was only due to lack of quality on their part that we didn’t concede. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Lack of subs and general game management was very poor. Got away with it tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Can't wait for Lee Ryder to ask if this win can be a turning point for this season in the post match presser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Just now, Disco said: Bless, you’re so seething we won you’re making stuff up. As always, Disco to act a cunt because someone dared criticise Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: Thats never been his style though. We see games out - out of possession. And we create chances largely based on our of possession pressing. It’s worked for us but we aren’t doing it well at the moment. We also can’t defend well if the press doesn’t work. Previously we could grind out clean sheets I don’t fully agree. Agreed that we’ve always prioritised out of possession work to great effect but imo we are still as effective at that. We haven’t been this bad in our build up phase ever, and the players haven’t ever looked as poor technically as they have this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Lack of subs and general game management was very poor. Got away with it tonight. Won 3-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 1 minute ago, Weezertron said: Can't wait for Lee Ryder to ask if this win can be a turning point for this season in the post match presser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Just now, tgarve said: Won 3-1 And ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyBartoon Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Delighted with the win. Paper over cracks tho after that 2nd half performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Sign more technical ability please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 After 2 early goals, we managed to hold on to it. Its not great, but its 3 points. No complaints. Nice to see different dynamic with wissa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Well done to him on getting a much needed away win. Tonight was definitely one where the result was more important than the performance. That said, the same problems were evident - sitting back and conceding shit loads of chances, midfield being ran through at will, not changing anything whilst we look like conceding at any given moment. We were lucky Burnley are shit & we probably go 2-2 against most other teams in the division playing the way we did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 Problem 1: the midfield led by the woefully out of form Italian. The best fix for this would be Miley, but he’s our RB so I don’t know. We “sit back” in many cases because we can’t keep the ball. So many moments where we just concede possession. Problem 2: we don’t get goals from our wingers. Barnes and Murphy have 5 combined. Gordon and Elanga have zero in the league (non-penalty). Last season we got 22 from Barnes / Murphy / Gordon 2023/24: 21 from Barnes / Gordon / Murphy / Miggy 2022/23: 20+ from Miggy / Joelinton / Murphy / ASM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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