Eddie Howe

[Dan Gleebals]

1 hour ago, Lish007 said:

He's human. Humans need time to adapt, grow and change. 

 

If us, as fans, or the board don't give him that time, i think we will sorely regret it. 

 

This is the biggest job of Eddie's life, you better believe he's giving it everything he's got and more. 

I am not sure anyone doubts he is giving it everything, I certainly don't.  He needs to find aswers though, and pretty quickly - and I hope he does.  Just starting to get some doubts if he has it in him, to trully take us to the next level or not.  Time will tell. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

15 minutes ago, TaylorJ_01 said:

I have faith in Howe for sure.

 

I think the players have been letting him down, bar a few.

 

Isak has really fucked him over and it'll take a year or two to properly recover from that if I'm honest. We almost got away with it when Woltemade started banging in goals but, once his form dropped, we've looked very toothless.

 

While I don't blame Howe for making the call, I also think it was a mistake to drop Woltemade as soon as Wissa was fit.

 

Of course you have to factor in rotation that is required and the fact that Eddie probably expected guaranteed goals from Wissa. 

 

 

Edited February 9 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Wolfcastle]

2 hours ago, Benwell Lad said:

So let's get this right, less than 1 in 10 of a decent sized, fairly representative group of supporters on here want him to go now but it's still being seized on by the media and others as the biggest story around the club right now ?

I guess it's like when a couple of hundred people out of a 50,000 crowd boo the team off but the narrative becomes "they were booed off the pitch" ?

Pretty sure a couple of the 40 will be wind ups too

There'll barely be a club in the country that doesn't have the same or higher percentage - the media darling's and reigning champions Liverpool will far exceed that

[huss9]

1 hour ago, Toon No9 said:

Would be great if Wor Flags could come up with a big Eddie-tifo to show him the support from the fans.

Problem is we don't have a home game in a while.

 

We must support Eddie in times like this!

@Heroncan they not drop the Eddie flag from the cup parade off the top of the gallowgate?

[Coffee_Johnny]

3 hours ago, andycap said:

Yeah just keep him as our manager through defeat after defeat until the end of the season. He hasn't got a scooby how to fix it, players aren't playing for him  they seem to have no faith in his ways anymore.

I can see a mass exodus in the summer.

But what do us lot know as where all thick. 😂 

Wow. Kept for posterity. 

[Memphis]

I think even Eddie himself would recognise that you shouldn't keep a player - or a manager - around based on what they've done in the past. On the pitch, look at Kieran Trippier - monumental signing at the time, played an enormous role in upping our quality and professionalism at a crucial point, he was incredible. Until he wasn't. And now, we are seeing him being played based on a lack of a viable alternative, yes, but more a belief in a player whose time at the top level is well and truly over.

 

I should stipulate that I adore Eddie. Personally, I love the way he represents us, understands the club and the supporters, speaks very well. I appreciate his work ethic as well, you cannot accuse him of lacking effort or desire. He has done things for this club that no one else ever has and I will always revere him for that.

 

That said, we live in the present, not the past. And in the present, he appears to be lacking something he once had - maybe it's as simple as not having a top-class striker. But he also seems to be unable to get the best out of these players. We have seen consistent development from players under Eddie until this year. No one apart from Lewis Miley or Lewis Hall can say they've really upped their game this year. Many have regressed. Eddie consistently had us as more than the sum of our parts, now we appear to be less. And while that fact may not be his fault, the lack of development and lack of dynamism is.

 

No manager deserves to be kept on simply because of things they've done in the past. There is only tomorrow in the game of football. And so I think people are asking the wrong question. The question shouldn't be: Does Eddie Howe deserve to be retained as manager? The question you have to ask yourself is this: Is Eddie Howe (for us) the managerial equivalent of Kieran Trippier? Or is he Alan Shearer - able to recover from a devastating setback with a few modifications and get back to his very best? 

 

I don't know the answer for sure. But the evidence I've seen so far is starting to suggest that he's running out of ideas. 

[Kanj]

1 hour ago, TaylorJ_01 said:

I have faith in Howe for sure.

 

I think the players have been letting him down, bar a few.

 

Isak has really fucked him over and it'll take a year or two to properly recover from that if I'm honest. We almost got away with it when Woltemade started banging in goals but, once his form dropped, we've looked very toothless.

 

By all accounts we were trying to tie him to a bumper deal and were happy to see him go this upcoming summer to wherever he wanted to go, it would have allowed us to pick up the pieces after the early summer of rejections (JP, Delap..then Ekitke) and we probably would have just signed Wissa to replace Wilson and gone on with the league - and likely be sat top 5, looking up at the season. Instead, we know what Isak did and how that spiraled us.

 

I am a firm believer in continuity, patience and trust. I think our owners, our CEO and our DOF need to support him 100% but they need to refresh the squad and trust the scouting that got us so many brilliant players of the years and Eddie needs to go back to trusting that or he'l work himself into hospital again. We will all be happier and better for it. I have stated before I am more than happy to finish mid table this season as we prioritize cup runs. I want to see us really clean up the squad and get ruthless this summer and I want Eddie leading a new refreshed team out next season. 

 

We need to all back the man, the grifters and naysayers who need likes, views, and clicks can fuck off out of here. We do not need that kind of supporter. Go back and think about the nerves and joy you had prior to the cup final and after it. That was our fans at its finest, and its united in defeat and in victory. I do not know where that feeling fucked off to after we won a cup, but I sure as hell hope people reflect and bring that back out. 

[SUPERTOON]

23 minutes ago, huss9 said:

@Heroncan they not drop the Eddie flag from the cup parade off the top of the gallowgate?

Fantastic idea, get it up somewhere in or around the stadium ?

[Geogaddi]

1 hour ago, Dan Gleebals said:

I am not sure anyone doubts he is giving it everything, I certainly don't.  He needs to find aswers though, and pretty quickly - and I hope he does.  Just starting to get some doubts if he has it in him, to trully take us to the next level or not.  Time will tell. 

Out of interest, what would you define as the next level? With PSR as it is the best we can realistically hope to achieve is top 4/5 and maybe a cup run on top of that which is what Eddie has achieved so far. The next level from that would be challenging for the title and the footballers that win you league titles wont play for us as we aren't allowed to pay them the wages they command.

 

 

Edited February 9 by Geogaddi

[AyeDubbleYoo]

6 minutes ago, Memphis said:

The question you have to ask yourself is this: Is Eddie Howe (for us) the managerial equivalent of Kieran Trippier? Or is he Alan Shearer - able to recover from a devastating setback with a few modifications and get back to his very best? 

 

Don't know about anyone else but my immediate answer is Alan Shearer, he's one of the best at his job and he's at the peak of his career. 

 

I find it helpful to do a thought experiment about what I would feel like if I read this afternoon that Eddie had quit. Would I be happier or more worried about the future of the club? No doubt in my mind I would be more worried than I am now. 

 

 

Edited February 9 by AyeDubbleYoo

[matta]

If theres talk about Howe getting sacked, then we definately need to change the narrative.

 

We are not like the others, Eddie stays.

[The Prophet]

Do a minority of fans need a reminder that we won the League Cup less than a year ago?

[Kanj]

Eddie guided our club to that trophy and never once taked about himself, it was never "me" it was the team, the coaches, the support staff, the medical team, the FANS. That is our manager, who has gotten more right than wrong in 4 years working 12+ hour days, 7 days a week to bring out the best in our squad and the club. When the hierarchy failed him, he didn't walk away and he dug in and tried to do it himself. Mistakes happen, but he does it with dignity and respect. He's never dug out the fans despite boos and unrest in various places. 

 

I'd take a mid table finish and whatever this season ended out with with that prime example of a man leading our club. 

[Earp]

Why don't we just fuck it and go back to the high intensity style of play that has brought us success previously. I dont think we had any more injuries playing that way as we have had recently.

[TaylorJ_01]

12 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Fantastic idea, get it up somewhere in or around the stadium ?

 

Even if we aren't playing, it would make it's way to him if we did that

[Toon No9]

17 minutes ago, Kanj said:

Eddie guided our club to that trophy and never once taked about himself, it was never "me" it was the team, the coaches, the support staff, the medical team, the FANS. That is our manager, who has gotten more right than wrong in 4 years working 12+ hour days, 7 days a week to bring out the best in our squad and the club. When the hierarchy failed him, he didn't walk away and he dug in and tried to do it himself. Mistakes happen, but he does it with dignity and respect. He's never dug out the fans despite boos and unrest in various places. 

 

I'd take a mid table finish and whatever this season ended out with with that prime example of a man leading our club. 

👏👏👏👏👏

[lovejoy]

The away end tomorrow will be relentless in support of him. Have no doubt about that.

[Minhosa]

7 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

The away end tomorrow will be relentless in support of him. Have no doubt about that.

Fucking rightly so too. 

[lovejoy]

4 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

Fucking rightly so too. 

Indeed.

[GideonShandy]

6 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Howe picked up a team who were nailed on for relegation, 11 points and 0 wins from 19 games. I still think that the second half of that season competes with cup win or consistency of performance, as his greatest achievement here. Metaphorically, he has proved he can make a silk purse from a sow’s ear. He can’t be expected to get a quart from a pint pot. In that we just don’t have the squad to play the amount of games we have. Either in terms of numbers or quality.
Trying to embed five signings pretty much all of them some way down the list of preferred signings would be a magic trick too far. I defy anyone to confidently believe (realise we can’t set up an experiment here…) that any other manager could have done better. Including Keegan. 

 

 

Agree with all of this, except it was 5 points and zero wins from 11 games.

[Dan Gleebals]

51 minutes ago, Geogaddi said:

Out of interest, what would you define as the next level? With PSR as it is the best we can realistically hope to achieve is top 4/5 and maybe a cup run on top of that which is what Eddie has achieved so far. The next level from that would be challenging for the title and the footballers that win you league titles wont play for us as we aren't allowed to pay them the wages they command.

 

 

 

Good question, and you are right - assuming a top 6 finish and strong cup runs year in, year out, would be equal success.  Next level for me, is being more tactically and technically adept and adaptable, something I do not think we have really seen over the last few months.  It has all got a bit one dimensional and predictable.  

There are many contributing factors, and I think he should be given time to figure that out - especially after the summer we had, and as it stands, new players who are way off the mark. 

[Rocker]

Eddie Howe 4 EVER IDST. 

[OoOGazOoO]

I really hope we get a win tomorrow, the whole place needs a big lift. I don't agree with Eddie that our performances have been good, maybe PSG aside, but I really want for him to guide us to a win tomorrow.

[Scoot]

4 hours ago, andycap said:

Yeah just keep him as our manager through defeat after defeat until the end of the season. He hasn't got a scooby how to fix it, players aren't playing for him  they seem to have no faith in his ways anymore.

I can see a mass exodus in the summer.

But what do us lot know as where all thick. 😂 

 

You said it.

[TRon]

2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

While I don't blame Howe for making the call, I also think it was a mistake to drop Woltemade as soon as Wissa was fit.

 

Of course you have to factor in rotation that is required and the fact that Eddie probably expected guaranteed goals from Wissa. 

 

 

 

 

 

Tbh, Wissa was the logical call as he fits Howe's formation far better than Woltemade.

 

In theory anyway. Why it's not working is another matter. Wissa (rightly) got pelters for his performance, but the football we were playing all over the pitch was shocking. The ball wasn't even getting to the final third so he was feeding off scraps.