The College Dropout Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 27 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Think he got the team wrong yesterday, he put a stronger team out against Qarabag at home after winning the first leg 6-1 than he did yesterday. We always had a better chance of beating Man City at home in a one off game than we did of beating Barca over 2 legs so yesterday should have been the priority. Agreed. Of the 5! games we’ll play Man U, City, Barca, Chelsea, Barca - this was the big one for me. Joelinton, Burn, Gordon start this. This was the big one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Listen if we beat Barca over 2 legs he’s justified. Bur for me - this was the biggest chance of securing a trophy and major European football next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I’m still not sure what people are expecting. Leaving aside the starting point that Howe inherited and everything he’s achieved since then (2 CL finishes, a cup final, a cup win FFS, going deep in almost every competition), the fact is that our realistic finishing place is somewhere between 6-8th. I certainly don’t expect to be finishing top 4 every season - the gap between us and the Big Six is enormous. One sub-par league season isn’t a disaster after the Isak drama and the most number of games played in the entirety of Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Agreed. Of the 5! games we’ll play Man U, City, Barca, Chelsea, Barca - this was the big one for me. Joelinton, Burn, Gordon start this. This was the big one. The team that started worked out fine for 30 minutes, the issue was his reluctance to change the team when it obviously needed to change before or at half time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just now, Jackie Broon said: The team that started worked out fine for 30 minutes, the issue was his reluctance to change the team when it obviously needed to change before or at half time. It’s not our strongest team in what I feel as the most important match in the run so I have a problem of that. The lack of changes shows why we didn’t go with our strongest team. We are racing legs for a competition we have little chance of winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Btw I’m not discussing his job or is it a debate for me. I’m upset by one match. I’m behind him 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 minutes ago, Hughesy said: I’m still not sure what people are expecting. Leaving aside the starting point that Howe inherited and everything he’s achieved since then (2 CL finishes, a cup final, a cup win FFS, going deep in almost every competition), the fact is that our realistic finishing place is somewhere between 6-8th. I certainly don’t expect to be finishing top 4 every season - the gap between us and the Big Six is enormous. One sub-par league season isn’t a disaster after the Isak drama and the most number of games played in the entirety of Europe. Nobody had played the number of games we've played against such high quality opposition. Man City 5 times, gonna be Barca 3 times, PSG, Villa 3 times etc. We don't have the squad to handle the schedule. No Europe next season is what we need. Time on the training pitch with Howe, a good transfer window and we will rocking next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: It’s not our strongest team in what I feel as the most important match in the run so I have a problem of that. The lack of changes shows why we didn’t go with our strongest team. We are racing legs for a competition we have little chance of winning. It’s not really about winning the CL though is it? It’s a massive game against Barca for the club and the fans. The spotlight on it, the prestige for everyone, it’s obviously a more important competition than the FA Cup, especially considering the relevant rounds were in for each. Opinions will differ I guess but I can’t see any way you can really say that Howe should not try his best to put together the best possible team against Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 11 hours ago, 500bhp said: Yes, I get that. The silver lining being that no cup fixtures means we have one game per week for the first time since September so in theory we should end the season very strongly 🤞 If ChatGPT is accurate, then the intervals (days) between our last 10 games 3, 3, 4, 4, 3, 3, 4, 4, 3 Average rest: 3.44 days (Compared to teams like Man U which average around 7.25) That isn’t much time for recovery even with a fully fit squad, let alone missing Bruno, Tino and others. We’ve also had the heaviest travel schedule across those last 10 games, massively skewed by the Baku trip and lots of away games. I’m still a big Eddie fan and I’m positive that we will have a strong end to the season when the fixture load calms down (relatively). I however remain highly unconvinced that Eddie and the club (with the current pressures and rules), can build a team/squad that can seriously compete on multiple fronts, season after season. Edited March 8 by mouldy_uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) He's not said it exactly, but I think his focus has been the CL from the start. I think he'd take poor league form and dropping out of the cups it it means progressing in Europe. Maybe he's right. If we beat Barca, maybe it'll all make sense. Edited March 8 by Keefaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 55 minutes ago, Hughesy said: I’m still not sure what people are expecting. Leaving aside the starting point that Howe inherited and everything he’s achieved since then (2 CL finishes, a cup final, a cup win FFS, going deep in almost every competition), the fact is that our realistic finishing place is somewhere between 6-8th. I certainly don’t expect to be finishing top 4 every season - the gap between us and the Big Six is enormous. One sub-par league season isn’t a disaster after the Isak drama and the most number of games played in the entirety of Europe. 42 minutes ago, samptime29 said: Nobody had played the number of games we've played against such high quality opposition. Man City 5 times, gonna be Barca 3 times, PSG, Villa 3 times etc. We don't have the squad to handle the schedule. No Europe next season is what we need. Time on the training pitch with Howe, a good transfer window and we will rocking next season. Fantastic posts! Compare this to Emery how many times have they made the cl ? once, how many cups have they gone far in? And yet they always gamble in January, If our owners want this "2030" bollocks they need to get our revenue up quick and stop fucking up the transfer windows. If we would of got the targets he wanted in the summer this season would of been a whole different story ( pedro Sesko Trafford Ekitike. How many changes did cheque book get to make last night? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I'd much rather win the FA Cup than get to the Champions League final. I don't care about club exposure like. It's about winning stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It’s not really about winning the CL though is it? It’s a massive game against Barca for the club and the fans. The spotlight on it, the prestige for everyone, it’s obviously a more important competition than the FA Cup, especially considering the relevant rounds were in for each. Opinions will differ I guess but I can’t see any way you can really say that Howe should not try his best to put together the best possible team against Barca. Yes as a fan I think the FA Cup is more important. There’s a good chance we lose both legs to Barca. Better chance we lose the tie. Won’t win the competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) We don't have to win the CL to make getting as far as possible in it worthwhile. Getting to the quarters/semis/final would be a huge milestone for the club, potentially helping to attract players, sponsors, new fans, whatever. There is also the additional revenue of course. We're clear underdogs against Barca but it's a massive tie for us. I was a bit disappointed going out with a whimper last night but we've been playing every 3 days for month after month after month, something has to give sometimes and unfortunately last night was one of the occasions it did. Just hope we're re-energised for Tuesday Edited March 8 by Interpolic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Hughesy said: I’m still not sure what people are expecting. Leaving aside the starting point that Howe inherited and everything he’s achieved since then (2 CL finishes, a cup final, a cup win FFS, going deep in almost every competition), the fact is that our realistic finishing place is somewhere between 6-8th. I certainly don’t expect to be finishing top 4 every season - the gap between us and the Big Six is enormous. One sub-par league season isn’t a disaster after the Isak drama and the most number of games played in the entirety of Europe. Playing in Europe every season for me. Doesn't have to be the CL, I think we are punching above our weight to get that. But we should be finishing top 6/7 every season now, and we have to be in Europe to attract players and keep the ones we've got. One season in, one season out, just means players abandoning ship because they see the growth is stalling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, mouldy_uk said: If ChatGPT is accurate, then the intervals (days) between our last 10 games 3, 3, 4, 4, 3, 3, 4, 4, 3 Average rest: 3.44 days (Compared to teams like Man U which average around 7.25) That isn’t much time for recovery even with a fully fit squad, let alone missing Bruno, Tino and others. We’ve also had the heaviest travel schedule across those last 10 games, massively skewed by the Baku trip and lots of away games. I’m still a big Eddie fan and I’m positive that we will have a strong end to the season when the fixture load calms down (relatively). I however remain highly unconvinced that Eddie and the club (with the current pressures and rules), can build a team/squad that can seriously compete on multiple fronts, season after season. 3.44 days is ridiculous. I've mentioned it loads on here but when we play the mackems a fortnight today, we'll have played something like 16 more games than them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Eddie thinks that Tuesday night is the biggest in the club's history so that will have definitely been on his mind and in his thoughts RE last night. I think on Tuesday he will go: Ramsdale Tino Thiaw Botman Hall Sandro Jo Ramsey Barnes Elanga Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 45 minutes ago, KennyUtd said: I'd much rather win the FA Cup than get to the Champions League final. I don't care about club exposure like. It's about winning stuff. Agree but the counter to that is I'd rather be in the CL quarter-finals than the FA Cup quarter-finals as there's very little chance of winning either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, OoOGazOoO said: Eddie thinks that Tuesday night is the biggest in the club's history so that will have definitely been on his mind and in his thoughts RE last night. I think on Tuesday he will go: Ramsdale Tino Thiaw Botman Hall Sandro Jo Ramsey Barnes Elanga Gordon There’s no way he is leaving out Burn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I can't believe he's said the game on Tuesday is the biggest in the clubs history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just now, El Prontonise said: I can't believe he's said the game on Tuesday is the biggest in the clubs history. Eh??? That can't be right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 7 minutes ago, OoOGazOoO said: Eddie thinks that Tuesday night is the biggest in the club's history so that will have definitely been on his mind and in his thoughts RE last night. I think on Tuesday he will go: Ramsdale Tino Thiaw Botman Hall Sandro Jo Ramsey Barnes Elanga Gordon Did he actually say that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, El Prontonise said: I can't believe he's said the game on Tuesday is the biggest in the clubs history. Trying to make the biggest occasion of it possible for the players and the fans. I get it tbh. We can’t win playing without a different intensity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Did he actually say that ? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Isn't he just saying that to motivate players and fans ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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