Eddie Howe

[nufc123]

1 minute ago, Wandy said:

 

It's what I took from yesterday's presser. People were commenting that he had the fire back in his belly but I read it that he was not going to go without getting the usual pay off. He's a man of great integrity but he's not the excessively nice guy that is painted. In my mind I do think he knows he is done here and it was just a case of a final "fuck you, we are done, so pay me off then".

Every fucker in here would do the same 

[Colos Short and Curlies]

29 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said:

 

I think this is why I advocate for him to be given the opportunity to operate under a proper structure and be given a chance to right things. We can't judge the chaos of last summer and subsequent mess of a season that resulted from it and put it all on him. If he's given that chance and it goes pear-shaped, we and he all know the outcome.

 

Forget any analysis on who wasn't there last summer, we've got a guy in charge who has got a number of reasons been in a position of power and influence on recruitment alongside the management of the squad. And things have gone backwards in the last 12 months.

 

I don't see anyone reacting well to them having a structure put around them to reduce their sphere of influence and then turning around the tanker. It just doesn't happen often in any walk of life.

[nufc4eva]

It's mostly been absolute trash he's served up this season and hasn't responded at all, yes done well in champs league but the rest has been fucking disgusting and shouldn't shy away from saying that, he doesn't know how to win premier League games.

[SUPERTOON]

It’s pretty bleak, Howe looks mentally done, and the players look they have stopped responding to him.

[RS]

Has his style been sussed?  Are the players not playing for him?  Is there something going on behind the scenes?

The performances are a country mile away from last season.  It looks like he doesn’t know how to fix it. 

[astraguy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c203y3ykv6no#comments
Thankfully mostly all positive vibes in the comments, Howey ! fuck social media 

[Mikky]

3 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

Forget any analysis on who wasn't there last summer, we've got a guy in charge who has got a number of reasons been in a position of power and influence on recruitment alongside the management of the squad. And things have gone backwards in the last 12 months.

 

I don't see anyone reacting well to them having a structure put around them to reduce their sphere of influence and then turning around the tanker. It just doesn't happen often in any walk of life.

He should never have the influence he does - the DoF is a CEO/President appointment in any other league to oversee the footballing strategy - it’s most often a 4 year cycle (when the presidency is up for re-election) no way, unless you are Pep do you have this level of influence - you appoint a DoF to ensure some form of continuity regardless of who the manager is  - that’s the clubs fault for not realising this 

[LionOfGosforth]

7 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

Forget any analysis on who wasn't there last summer, we've got a guy in charge who has got a number of reasons been in a position of power and influence on recruitment alongside the management of the squad. And things have gone backwards in the last 12 months.

 

I don't see anyone reacting well to them having a structure put around them to reduce their sphere of influence and then turning around the tanker. It just doesn't happen often in any walk of life.

 

Maybe so but I don't think we know what he wants or thinks of as the ideal structure and anyway, I doubt he wanted to be in the position he found himself in, in the summer. I think he's alluded to that. More importantly, what will PIF do and how will they react to a down season. Will they panic and replace? Will they apply reasonable context and go again, maybe partly to avoid a recruitment mess like last summer? All unknowns.

[Hovagod]

Want him to go. We’re boring and he just starts with the same team and uses the same ideas every time. I would roll the dice. If it goes wrong go again, but this is clearly not working 

[Danh1]

Just now, Hovagod said:

Want him to go. We’re boring and he just starts with the same team and uses the same ideas every time. I would roll the dice. If it goes wrong go again, but this is clearly not working 

This is it. I don’t see how it can get much worse than it’s been for a while now. 
 

4 of the lost 5 home games we’ve lost late on. 

[Collage]

32 minutes ago, Milburn said:

The last thing we can afford is a Ten Hag situation at Man Utd, where you give it more time, things don’t improve, and you end up pulling the trigger before Christmas anyway.

If we're aiming for a change of course, a total reset, Howe has to go, otherwise we risk just that; to have to install a new manager halfway through the season who hasn't been a part of building the squad. But who knows, maybe Hopkinson et al think that we should carry on, that this season was just a blip, and that Howe will steady the ship with the help of some shrewd business in the summer. What do I think? I think Howe "deserves" time, but maybe that is not really relevant in top-level football and maybe we do need a change of direction.

[magorific]

3 hours ago, 500bhp said:

8 defeats in last 11 league games and some people still want Howe in charge next season. It's that type of attitude that separates the successful clubs from the also rans. 

 

Our owners want to be challenging for top honours in the next four years. Whether that's realistic or not that's their on the record goal. No way Howe will be in charge next season. If they haven't already the board will be sounding out replacements this week. 

It’s that type of attitude which defines successful clubs?

 

Man Utd finished 11th and 13th in the seasons leading up to their first trophy under Ferguson.

 
Tottenham recorded two runners-up finishes and got to a Champions League final under Poch, and sacked him the following season when they were … 14th in the table.

 

Liverpool finished eighth in Klopp’s first season in charge…

 

 

 

[wong989]

Hoping this shows PIF there’s 3 areas. Commercial, first team and the clubs infrastructure. We don’t have CL level execs, recruitment, scale of scouting. Allowing Howe the level of control he's seemingly had was bad judgement after what we saw at Bournemouth. Don’t see how he’d stay or how it would work. It was obvious last season we needed some help with coaching, the technical levels and the ideas in the final third were very poor for a team in the CL places. Yet it got even worse and Howe doesn’t seem to pen able to fix it.

[nufc4eva]

5 minutes ago, Hovagod said:

Want him to go. We’re boring and he just starts with the same team and uses the same ideas every time. I would roll the dice. If it goes wrong go again, but this is clearly not working 

Boring, fairly predictable and very easy to bypass us. Very little actual threat going forward, weak mentality and fuck all real energy on the ball almost like we have no idea what to do when we have it, turgid shit and players to blame but Howe coaches, sets tactics and formation and it's fucking shit

[black_n_white]

Not saying this is an excuse for the poor recent form but haven’t we played like nearly 60 games this season already?

[mouldy_uk]

45 minutes ago, dcmk said:

Every top team plays that way.  

 

Our wingers today were especially terrible.

If Europe is gone, then fuck it and go 5-3-2 and put WOLT and Osula up front together, the wrecking crew and ditch the shite that is our wingers 

[Colos Short and Curlies]

11 minutes ago, Mikky said:

He should never have the influence he does - the DoF is a CEO/President appointment in any other league to oversee the footballing strategy - it’s most often a 4 year cycle (when the presidency is up for re-election) no way, unless you are Pep do you have this level of influence - you appoint a DoF to ensure some form of continuity regardless of who the manager is  - that’s the clubs fault for not realising this 

 

It doesn't really matter now if he should or shouldn't have had the influence. He did and we are now in a place where putting a structure over him is saying that the club don't believe that he should have as much say in how we move forward.

 

Right or wrong that's the position and human nature makes it nigh on impossible to not just accept that bit to rise and thrive under who is brought in.

 

As I say it's not a case of was the past set up right, or even that Howe wanted it, it's whether making the change now will allow Howe to be the best that he can

And I'll stick my neck out and say it won't

[Mikky]

1 minute ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

It doesn't really matter now if he should or shouldn't have had the influence. He did and we are now in a place where putting a structure over him is saying that the club don't believe that he should have as much say in how we move forward.

 

Right or wrong that's the position and human nature makes it nigh on impossible to not just accept that bit to rise and thrive under who is brought in.

 

As I say it's not a case of was the past set up right, or even that Howe wanted it, it's whether making the change now will allow Howe to be the best that he can

And I'll stick my neck out and say it won't

Yep he won’t want it but he has now a choice - accept it as the new reality or leave 

[Holmesy]

48 minutes ago, Steve Charlton said:

From press conf

 

"I can only pick within the system that i play,Which is only one striker"

 

Not sure what the question was but the system has been played out and predictable for a while now 

 

Please sort it out

 

What a  crock of shit! Can’t believe he actually came out with that tbh. 

[huss9]

the biggest damage he's done to the club was the summer trasfer window.

pushed out Mitchell and got his own way.

set us back years with that £250m spend.

 

 

[black_n_white]

Just now, huss9 said:

the biggest damage he's done to the club was the summer trasfer window.

pushed out Mitchell and got his own way.

set us back years with that £250m spend.

 

 

Exactly this. It’s why a summer rebuild is fantasy stuff. 

[jarralad]

I don't trust him with the clubs finances, all good things come to an end sooner or later...

[Kid Icarus]

Absolutely staggering how many people either don't know what happened in the summer, can't remember, or seem to think that the summer setup was by his design or even something he wanted. 

 

It's just as well he doesn't read any social media stuff because if he knew how many of our fanbase blame him for the summer after he stepped up to bail PIF out of their own incompetence he'd probably have walked a while back. 

 

 

Edited April 18 by Kid Icarus

[toon25]

11 minutes ago, huss9 said:

the biggest damage he's done to the club was the summer trasfer window.

pushed out Mitchell and got his own way.

set us back years with that £250m spend.

 

 

 

Where's it said that it's factually correct that he pushed out Mitchell?

[The Prophet]

6 minutes ago, huss9 said:

the biggest damage he's done to the club was the summer trasfer window.

pushed out Mitchell and got his own way.

set us back years with that £250m spend.

 

 

 

Can't believe lines like these are still being peddled like. 

 

Unless "his own way" was the DoF walking out at a time he desperately needed rest, forcing him to step up as defacto Sporting Director whilst taking preseason. I can't imagine it was though.

 

Same crack as the "he proved Mitchell right stuff". As though last summer was the norm and not an extraordinary set of circumstances.