The Prophet Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Hall hasn't been in the best form, best he's the least of our issues like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEntertainer Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said: They voted the wrong way if so I mean it could be either right, who knows what other fans are thinking, It was more just that it could be super positive Newcastle fans, or it could be super negative Sunderland fans, or it could literally be anyone. I just thought it was interesting how different that result was to ours. Edited May 1 by TheEntertainer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 44 minutes ago, Cf said: "The club failed to secure any of our first choice targets and failed to keep hold of Isak so we were scrambling at the last minute" is a pretty straightforward defence. It's a pretty shit one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Cf said: "The club failed to secure any of our first choice targets and failed to keep hold of Isak so we were scrambling at the last minute" is a pretty straightforward defence. Wissa was a first choice target, in fairness (Wilson replacement). We first bid for him in July. The ones we didn't get were (arguably) the Isak replacement. Edited May 1 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 minute ago, TK-421 said: Wissa was a first choice target, in fairness. We first bid for him in July. Think we originally wanted him for about 25/30 million as a Wilson replacement/ backup option . Was only when the Isak stuff happened and we obviously struggled to get anyone else in that we basically just panicked and massively overpaid for him to be our first choice striker . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 What happened on the Sky News interview Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, TK-421 said: Also, when asked about Wissa and Woltemade last week, he mentioned there being 'a potential partnership there'. They'll be sat in seats next to each other on the bench Saturday then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 47 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Think we originally wanted him for about 25/30 million as a Wilson replacement/ backup option . Was only when the Isak stuff happened and we obviously struggled to get anyone else in that we basically just panicked and massively overpaid for him to be our first choice striker . Selling clubs held the cards as soon as rat boy stomped his claws...we paid their demands out of desperation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Not first choice target is not a valid reason imo. How many clubs out there can always get their first choice target? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 We shopped in the wrong market simple as. We tried for players other big teams wanted and we couldn't compete on the wages front. Mitchell would've had a load of good alternatives lined up you'd think. That's why I think he walked out on us early pre season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 8 minutes ago, Zero said: Not first choice target is not a valid reason imo. How many clubs out there can always get their first choice target? The ones above us in the points total since EH took over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Most of the fans whos opinion i respect either think Eddie should stay and be given the chance to rebuild or are open to him going provided there is a coherent alternative. The ones who i dont respect have been trashing him long before this season, and dont seem to give a toss about his achievements. In fact most of the same people consistently have takes on transfers, the club ownership and the manager that reeks of entitlement, its people who I can only assume have never set foot on a football pitch or understand anything about anything, never mind football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEntertainer Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 6 minutes ago, STM said: Most of the fans whos opinion i respect either think Eddie should stay and be given the chance to rebuild or are open to him going provided there is a coherent alternative. The ones who i dont respect have been trashing him long before this season, and dont seem to give a toss about his achievements. In fact most of the same people consistently have takes on transfers, the club ownership and the manager that reeks of entitlement, its people who I can only assume have never set foot on a football pitch or understand anything about anything, never mind football. Ah we are back to disrespect and entitlement, jolly good. It's been a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 21 minutes ago, Pilko said: They'll be sat in seats next to each other on the bench Saturday then. Likely to get more exercise if you make them ball boys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 10 minutes ago, andycap said: We shopped in the wrong market simple as. We tried for players other big teams wanted and we couldn't compete on the wages front. Mitchell would've had a load of good alternatives lined up you'd think. That's why I think he walked out on us early pre season. Whether they would be good alternatives we'll never know. But he would certainly have been shopping in different markets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, TheEntertainer said: Ah we are back to disrespect and entitlement, jolly good. It's been a while. Hasn't been a while, some have been doing it all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, duo said: Eddie clearly refusing to walk away from a £6mil a year contract. What an utterly gross way of framing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 12 minutes ago, STM said: Most of the fans whos opinion i respect either think Eddie should stay and be given the chance to rebuild or are open to him going provided there is a coherent alternative. The ones who i dont respect have been trashing him long before this season, and dont seem to give a toss about his achievements. In fact most of the same people consistently have takes on transfers, the club ownership and the manager that reeks of entitlement, its people who I can only assume have never set foot on a football pitch or understand anything about anything, never mind football. Who are these people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, duo said: Eddie clearly refusing to walk away from a £6mil a year contract. From his presser the next four games sound crucial to him keeping his job. How much to get you to remove this post? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 25 minutes ago, STM said: Most of the fans whos opinion i respect either think Eddie should stay and be given the chance to rebuild or are open to him going provided there is a coherent alternative. The ones who i dont respect have been trashing him long before this season, and dont seem to give a toss about his achievements. In fact most of the same people consistently have takes on transfers, the club ownership and the manager that reeks of entitlement, its people who I can only assume have never set foot on a football pitch or understand anything about anything, never mind football. Proud of you, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cf said: "The club failed to secure any of our first choice targets and failed to keep hold of Isak so we were scrambling at the last minute" is a pretty straightforward defence. Falls apart under the tiniest bit of scrutiny when the first choice targets were also coveted by higher profile teams than NUFC who can easily outspend us without much strain on their resources. Like my lass complaining that the kitchen cupboards are bare and me saying that I wanted to buy a trolley full of groceries at Harrods but when I got to the till I realised I couldn't afford it so had to put it all back on the shelves. Edited May 1 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 18 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Who are these people? The ones who think they know better than people who run football clubs and persistently talk about "knowing ball" etc. Those are the ones i dont respect the opinion of. Thankfully I dont surround myself with those people in the real world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Eddie Howe on the Matfen Hall summit: “It was constructive. The owners clearly care so much about the club. There is long-term planning on a number of levels. There are exciting times ahead, regardless of what happens short term. The long-term ambition is there. The desire is to get to the top of the Premier League.” “There is no change in terms of the support & infrastructure and how people are working. I’m pleased with the support for me. I’m here, I’m working hard and I’m committed. My motivation levels are high, but I’m under no illusion, I have to get results to keep that unity and trust.” A win tomorrow would help lift us. HTL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 20 minutes ago, STM said: The ones who think they know better than people who run football clubs and persistently talk about "knowing ball" etc. Those are the ones i dont respect the opinion of. Thankfully I dont surround myself with those people in the real world. Weird. I talk about knowing ball and have criticism of decisions/behaviours of the people who run the football club. Yet - I've never wanted Eddie out. I've never thought he was beyond reproach and noticed negative patterns at his best - which is why i'm largely unbothered by those same pattterns now results have turned (pre-planned subs, reactive to goals rather than play, overemphasis on PL experience etc.) I think you've taken a super hardline where if anyone criticises anyone at the club - you can't stand it. You can't critique the owners or the manager, if you do - you're ungrateful and spoiled. I don't think that's a sensible way of looking at things or the world personally. I think there's valid grounds to want Eddie gone. But there's not enough justification for me. And I don't think his coaching/managerial performance is the primary cause of our underperformance. I think it's a poorly assembled squad. But I can see and to some degree respect an alternate perspective. I am worried he's lost the belief of the dresssing rooom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 27 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Eddie Howe on the Matfen Hall summit: “It was constructive. The owners clearly care so much about the club. There is long-term planning on a number of levels. There are exciting times ahead, regardless of what happens short term. The long-term ambition is there. The desire is to get to the top of the Premier League.” “There is no change in terms of the support & infrastructure and how people are working. I’m pleased with the support for me. I’m here, I’m working hard and I’m committed. My motivation levels are high, but I’m under no illusion, I have to get results to keep that unity and trust.” A win tomorrow would help lift us. HTL However positive the summit was, we do need to finish the season on a high otherwise the questions over Howe's future will rumble on. I reckon a couple of wins at home are needed just to turn the tide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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