Eddie Howe

[RS]

Great news our owners have faith in him. As do most of the supporters. 
 

A strong transfer window.  Move out the disruptors. Bring in more potential, young signings. Let the clubs greatest manager do the rest. 
 

 

 

 

Edited May 6 by RS

[Jesse Pinkman]

Anyone watch that Noise dude on YT? You would think Howe’s shagged his mum or something. Goes red in the face ranting and raving about Howe and this from someone in the Howe out camp. 

[wong989]

5 hours ago, TRon said:

 

Saudi economy seems to be flatlining and the ongoing war will only have made things worse. I do wonder if they are as enthusiastic about pumping money into foreign ventures as they were 5 years ago. 

I’d imagine the war will underline the need for economic diversification and a greater presence and level of influence on the world stage, if not immediately when things settle.

[Ben]

I think we have until 2034, who knows after that

[huss9]

9 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

Would have been easier to change the manager reading that article on Howe, some very damning lines.

 

[gjohnson]

Taken the lazy option which means they dont have to make a decision. Howe has had a almost a full season taking us backwards with poor and expensive transfers. Guys a legend, but has been completely figured out, bought expensive players that should have improved us but really haven't, kept in old and aging players who are less reliable week by week, over playing certain ones so they get injured, rushing injured players back, and occasionally playing some truly bizarre formations and tactics

[The Prophet]

Not agreeing with the decision doesn't make it the lazy option.

[Skeletor]

10 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Not agreeing with the decision doesn't make it the lazy option.

 

Maybe, but keeping Eddie but telling him he needs to change absolutely everything is not a good sign.

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

 

Maybe, but keeping Eddie but telling him he needs to change absolutely everything is not a good sign.

I think all he's been told is we can't afford a repeat of this season tbh. 

[The Prophet]

16 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

 

Maybe, but keeping Eddie but telling him he needs to change absolutely everything is not a good sign.

 

Is that what he's been told though?

 

Don't agree with the decision? That's fine, I understand why folks would have their doubts, but keeping him was also a perfectly legitimate option. 

[Dr Venkman]

21 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

 

Maybe, but keeping Eddie but telling him he needs to change absolutely everything is not a good sign.

Meanwhile, in reality, this hasn’t happened.

[gjohnson]

If people cant see Eddie has been totally figured out they obviously arent watching our games. How many times has a game been lost after 90 mins this season? How many points have been lost from winning positions? Once or twice is excusable but more than 10 is poor management. That's even before starting on the transfer debacle 

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, gjohnson said:

If people cant see Eddie has been totally figured out they obviously arent watching our games. How many times has a game been lost after 90 mins this season? How many points have been lost from winning positions? Once or twice is excusable but more than 10 is poor management. That's even before starting on the transfer debacle 

As someone who would probably move on as well, you have to recognise he has the talent to figure it out and take us forward . 

[SteV]

3 minutes ago, gjohnson said:

If people cant see Eddie has been totally figured out they obviously arent watching our games. How many times has a game been lost after 90 mins this season? How many points have been lost from winning positions? Once or twice is excusable but more than 10 is poor management. That's even before starting on the transfer debacle 

If he’s been “completely figured out” why are teams going behind to us in the first place, let alone having to score goals at 90+ minutes to beat us?

[RS]

Brighton didn’t totally figure him out. 

[Mills and Boon]

22 minutes ago, SteV said:

If he’s been “completely figured out” why are teams going behind to us in the first place, let alone having to score goals at 90+ minutes to beat us?

 

It's either they're lulling us into a false sense of security by allowing our basic and predictable tactics to work, or the system we're using is still actually fit for purpose and isn't as easy to counter as the Howe Outers make out

[Andy]

6 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said:

 

It's either they're lulling us into a false sense of security by allowing our basic and predictable tactics to work, or the system we're using is still actually fit for purpose and isn't as easy to counter as the Howe Outers make out

 

We're managing to find goals to take the lead but still playing an entirely unconvincing brand of football and looking second best for significant spells in games. 

 

Putting it right is not outside of Howe's ability, but this is definitely his biggest challenge if he remains manager. 

[Smal]

I do think we’ve been generally set up well to win games this season.

 

Biggest problems have been no striker to kill games off, our keepers throwing it in their own net constantly, Thiaw’s studs etc. The cumulative effect of all that has made the players fragile mentally.

 

If we’re talking about dire football, please watch the rest of the premier league. It is all awful.

 

 

Edited May 6 by Smal

[Mills and Boon]

I've seen people compare us to the Bruce era when it comes to watching the match. I think people have genuinely forgot what properly shit football looks like

[SteV]

We’ve played 35 league games and lost four of them by more than one goal.

 

Whilst I would agree that many of the performances have been unconvincing, the fact remains we’re competitive in almost every game. 
 

Granted, that should really be the bare minimum, but it’s clearly not as catastrophically poor as some like to make out.

 

The two major issues which have blighted our season have been: 

 

a) an inability to capitalise on taking the lead with further goals, especially at home (which we’ve previously been very good at)

 

b) where that’s not been possible, an ability to manage / see games out in the latter stages

 

No doubt there’ll be other factors causing these two issues (central striker problems being an obvious one) but they are the two massive things to fix IMO.

 

Easier said than done obviously, but do so, and we’re back up where we want to be again.

[Superbmac]

12 hours ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

Anyone watch that Noise dude on YT? You would think Howe’s shagged his mum or something. Goes red in the face ranting and raving about Howe and this from someone in the Howe out camp. 

He’s an absolute knob. So entitled.

 

He talks with a weariness that suggests he could do a better job.

 

I remember us regularly getting knocked out of cups to lower League sides. Now we pretty much only go out to better sides.

 

Bobby Robson was one of the most respected managers ever and even he didn’t win anything here.

 

Next season will tell if the problem this year was Eddie, or the fairly obvious fallout from having no structure and then having your star striker act like a penis.

[Chicken Dancer]

We’ve been absolutely rank in most of our league games this season, despite ‘being in the game’. Rotten to watch. 
 

Doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve the chance to turn it round, he’s more than earned that luxury. 

[Holmesy]

44 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said:

I've seen people compare us to the Bruce era when it comes to watching the match. I think people have genuinely forgot what properly shit football looks like

They're different versions of shit though aren't they. You have one manager who by his own admission doesn't believe in tactics and one so wedded to his tactics that he becomes his own worst enemy. The latter is obviously the lesser of two evils but to an extent they're just two variations of cluelessness.
 

You cannot compare Bruce and Eddie from a talent POV and to do so is unfair, but what we have seen this season has highlighted Eddie's limitations where Bruce's limitations were established decades ago. At least Eddie has the intelligence and talent to potentially turn this around - whether he does or not is completely down to him.

 

Regardless, the football this season has been turgid and you can probably count on one hand the games where we've actually looked convincing. 

 

 

Edited May 6 by Holmesy

[TRon]

15 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

You’re conflating lots of different things. 
 

 

If a club entity owns the stadium the club will be paying for it.  Maybe some type of low interest loan, I don’t know.  Either way - finance is not the reason for delay. 
 

 

Man Utd debt was part of a leveraged buy out.  Thats nowt to do with spending on infrastructure.  
 

Youre making strawman arguments in a desperate bid to defend PIF.  but why? 

 

 

They aren't strawman arguments, I explained it pretty clearly. I'd rather have the club with less debt and the owners pay it out of their pocket. 

 

Tbh I am not even convinced they will put up 50% of the cost of a new stadium any more, if they don't then I am happy to have any new ownership who will take the club to the next level. Although again...with SCR in place that will be a long slog even assuming any new owners want to invest like PIF have so far. 

[The College Dropout]

6 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

They aren't strawman arguments, I explained it pretty clearly. I'd rather have the club with less debt and the owners pay it out of their pocket. 

 

Tbh I am not even convinced they will put up 50% of the cost of a new stadium any more, if they don't then I am happy to have any new ownership who will take the club to the next level. Although again...with SCR in place that will be a long slog even assuming any new owners want to invest like PIF have so far. 

The club will be paying for the stadium.  The Saudi’s won’t gift it to the club. I don’t get this line of argument.