Mike Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 4 hours ago, 54 said: That's a Welsh town I can stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Sir Bobby would have loved him, hugest Praise he’d ever get as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Don’t want to compare him to KK it’s too difficult. KK was a good among men for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE28 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Too young to know myself but going off what I’m told I’m not sure anyone will ever compare to what Keegan achieved. Nobody will probably ever understand this club and it’s fans like he did but Howe will hopefully go on to succeed in ways that unfortunately Keegan couldn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, NE28 said: Too young to know myself but going off what I’m told I’m not sure anyone will ever compare to what Keegan achieved. Nobody will probably ever understand this club and it’s fans like he did but Howe will hopefully go on to succeed in ways that unfortunately Keegan couldn’t. I think that’s it, tbf. I don’t doubt that Howe is tactically more astute and the ultimate modern manager. There’s a good chance we end up with a Howe statue outside the ground, assuming he wins some of those shiny pot things. I love having him at NUFC - he inspires hope via his professionalism and quality. But KK was the biggest name in English football - and the one man who absolutely believed in what the club and city could be. And he made sure that we all believed that too. It went beyond football - a club, city and region that had suffered what seemed to be terminal decline being inspired by the ultimate motivator. I’ve written it before on here, but this is the club that Kevin built. That there isn’t a stand named in his honour is a joke, frankly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE28 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I think that’s it, tbf. I don’t doubt that Howe is tactically more astute and the ultimate modern manager. There’s a good chance we end up with a Howe statue outside the ground, assuming he wins some of those shiny pot things. I love having him at NUFC - he inspires hope via his professionalism and quality. But KK was the biggest name in English football - and the one man who absolutely believed in what the club and city could be. And he made sure that we all believed that too. It went beyond football - a club, city and region that had suffered what seemed to be terminal decline being inspired by the ultimate motivator. I’ve written it before on here, but this is the club that Kevin built. That there isn’t a stand named in his honour is a joke, frankly. Aye, pointless to compare but without Keegan there is no Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, NE28 said: Aye, pointless to compare but without Keegan there is no Howe. There might be no NUFC, tbh. It’s why those outside the region who sneer at KK or the ‘Messiah’ narrative, the ‘you never won fuck all’ brigade don’t get it. It wasn’t that we all want to see us lose 4-3 every week. It was that a figure of national significance - and KK was that - knew what this place was and what it could be. They think it was just about football and trophies, missing the point entirely. Hope - in a place devoid of it - is a wonderful thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Even just this summer I was still hearing other clubs fans saying we will need to eventually get a higher profile manager before we can really compete. Found that infuriating. They really can't see what this genius of a man is putting together. He's going right to the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, KaKa said: Even just this summer I was still hearing other clubs fans saying we will need to eventually get a higher profile manager before we can really compete. Found that infuriating. They really can't see what this genius of a man is putting together. He's going right to the top. It’s better if they don’t see it, we are still somewhat going under the radar and I love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Mike said: That's a Welsh town I can stand. I assume you mean TNS who are actually a team from Oswestry and Oswestry is a town in England! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Schooled Emery from the moment he "hid" our true tactics in the friendly match. Genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Schooled Emery from the moment he "hid" our true tactics in the friendly match. Genius. Good point that. Literally doesn’t miss a trick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 He's absolutely the real deal, like. Works his bollocks off to get better and better too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) Don’t think I’ve ever seen a team so well prepared for the first game of a season. Absolutely silly levels of professionalism. He never even played that lineup in preseason and he had to go to the US instead of just training quietly in Austria or something, but everyone knew their jobs perfectly and executed it brilliantly. Edited August 13, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Waiting after a game to hear a Newcastle managers post match comments feels almost alien, but that’s how engaged I am with his leadership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, KaKa said: Even just this summer I was still hearing other clubs fans saying we will need to eventually get a higher profile manager before we can really compete. Found that infuriating. They really can't see what this genius of a man is putting together. He's going right to the top. My favourite post from other clubs' fans (Man Utd) https://www.redcafe.net/threads/newcastle-united-23-24-season.478578/post-30917878 Quote It's money they shouldn't have... no matter how they've used it. Love the delusion they're still living under. Eyes wide shut. Edited August 13, 2023 by Skeletor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Don’t think I’ve ever seen a team so well prepared for the first game of a season. Absolutely silly levels of professionalism. He never even played that lineup in preseason and he had to go to the US instead of just training quietly in Austria or something, but everyone knew their jobs perfectly and executed it brilliantly. It was ludicrous how fit we looked in comparison to Villa. We were still running around with the same intensity at 80 minutes as we were in the first minute. Mostly our press understandably faded in games last season but it didn't yesterday at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 His fitness levels are why I don't think he'll ever work as well as England manager. There was a lot of people saying he's the perfect candidate last season but I don't think it'll work. If he got the group of players together for a week mid season they'll never be up to the fitness levels that he expects. Pre season is so important as he makes us incredibly prepared,something that he wouldn't get at International management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 39 minutes ago, Skeletor said: My favourite post from other clubs' fans (Man Utd) https://www.redcafe.net/threads/newcastle-united-23-24-season.478578/post-30917878 Love the delusion they're still living under. Eyes wide shut. That is so embarrassing a comment, I don't even know how to respond. Cringeworthy stuff. Let them continue talking nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, Scotty66 said: His fitness levels are why I don't think he'll ever work as well as England manager. There was a lot of people saying he's the perfect candidate last season but I don't think it'll work. If he got the group of players together for a week mid season they'll never be up to the fitness levels that he expects. Pre season is so important as he makes us incredibly prepared,something that he wouldn't get at International management. By the same token I'd expect Howe to adjust and figure out a means of playing in a way that doesn't require outrageous fitness for an international cup competition and be great in that, or any role, man is class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 48 minutes ago, RS said: Waiting after a game to hear a Newcastle managers post match comments feels almost alien, but that’s how engaged I am with his leadership. This. We're now back in the realms of rammed, post match, bars being hushed to silence when our manager comes on the TVs for his interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, GEFAFWISP said: By the same token I'd expect Howe to adjust and figure out a means of playing in a way that doesn't require outrageous fitness for an international cup competition and be great in that, or any role, man is class. Yeah it's not like he would be a complete failure and like you say tournament football is more suitable as he also has a lot longer to work with the players. It's just that many pundits don't understand why he makes us so good and why we blow teams away. Tactically he's definitely good enough to manage at that level but I think he's more suited to club football. Would be interested to know if he demanded high fitness levels at Bournemouth when they rose through the divisions or if its a fairly recent thing he's added to his management skills. Edited August 13, 2023 by Scotty66 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Would Pep go to manage a national team in the prime of his career? No because it’s not a job for an elite manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Conjo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 9 hours ago, r0cafella said: Don’t want to compare him to KK it’s too difficult. KK was a good among men for us. There's no point comparing them either. Two different eras with different methods, knowledge and technology. KK, SBR, Benitez & Howe will all be remembered as great managers and great people in my book. Roeder and Houghton maybe not so great managers, but great people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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