Jaqen Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Whilst a lot was made of our 'time wasting' last year we mainly used the stoppages to get a bit of a breather and recharge rather than run the clock down. Sides like City, Liverpool etc can press like mad but then comfortably hold the ball for long periods of time to get a similar result. We have a couple too many players who just aren't great in possession. Purely on eye test we give the ball away way more cheaply compared to any of the other top 6 sides. I think that's a big reason we spent big on Tonali, he has the physicality and engine to press well but with a lot more quality on the ball than our other CMs bar Bruno. I think give it a few more windows and we'll have a similar quality and profile of player all over the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 We’ve had problems with injuries for as long as I can remember. Not that I paid much attention to it in the 70’s and 80’s but I recall theories about the climate and the state of training pitches being bandied about 20 years ago as explanations for the amount of soft tissue injuries we were getting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineblue Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: Our whole team really. If not Bruno, we start looking at our RB or CB, which is not a good sign. I was banging on about a Maddison-type player for ages. I'll switch it up a littleand call for a Cole Palmer-type player instead. Different player but same function. Get a foot on it and play it into areas we can attack/score from. Wow you rate Cole Palmer that highly, I think City got £30m pounds too much for him myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Maineblue said: Wow you rate Cole Palmer that highly, I think City got £30m pounds too much for him myself. You sold him for £40m. You think he's worth £10m? He looks a great playmaker to me. Small sample size but: Just keeps play going forward. Gets on the ball loads, passes it forward loads, carries it forward loads, creates for others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: You sold him for £40m. You think he's worth £10m? He looks a great playmaker to me. Small sample size but: Just keeps play going forward. Gets on the ball loads, passes it forward loads, carries it forward loads, creates for others. Yeah I would have had here in an instant. I think he’s proving to be really good value right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineblue Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: You sold him for £40m. You think he's worth £10m? He looks a great playmaker to me. Small sample size but: Just keeps play going forward. Gets on the ball loads, passes it forward loads, carries it forward loads, creates for others. He hardly got game time at City, no way was he worth £45m for which we sold him for, I’d put him in the £15m price category, yes he played ok yesterday but one swallow doesn’t make a summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Maineblue said: He hardly got game time at City, no way was he worth £45m for which we sold him for, I’d put him in the £15m price category, yes he played ok yesterday but one swallow doesn’t make a summer. Not getting a game at City doesn't mean much. Have you seen the rest of your team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Coincidentally I think Palmer's been one of Chelsea's better players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineblue Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Troll said: Not getting a game at City doesn't mean much. Have you seen the rest of your team? If other clubs want to pay £40 or £50m for our academy prospects form a queue, all I’m saying is City wasn’t going to turn down that fee whatever’s been spoken today by people in the media and rival fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 £15m doesn't even buy you a reserve full back now man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Reminder that Chris Wood cost £25m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Cole Palmer was easy worth 40m. Think Chelsea got a bargain, personally. I'd have spunked that to have him here in a heartbeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Tbf if you throw a billion at transfers you'd expect one of them to end up being really good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Maine blue seems to dislike the lad. Watched last nights game and highlights of a few other Chelsea games. The lad looks class. The best academys sell youngsters that can’t get minutes for a lot of money all the time. We are going to spend Palmer money on Lewis Hall. I’m a bit annoyed we got Hall instead of Palmer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Hall is over 2 years younger than Palmer like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Probably already have someone in mind for that RW slot. Wouldn't be surprised if we wouldn't have seen Palmer as attainable. Think the move was a bit of a surprise all round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 It sounds like Chelsea had been working on the Palmer deal for months. He looks promising, but he's still learning the game and can go missing. With Hall, if he hadn't been available on a loan-to-buy we almost certainly wouldn't have signed him. He's a prospect that can cover in areas we were short in. Apples to oranges really, but it looks like both will have good careers ahead of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Wullie said: Hall is over 2 years younger than Palmer like. Not saying Hall won’t be a good signing. But he doesn’t look ready to nail down a first team place. For this season we’ve got a 3rd choice left back. Palmer would’ve been ready to start at RW. In 2-3 years. I expect he’ll be a great player. But we needed players that can contribute more now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It sounds like Chelsea had been working on the Palmer deal for months. He looks promising, but he's still learning the game and can go missing. With Hall, if he hadn't been available on a loan-to-buy we almost certainly wouldn't have signed him. He's a prospect that can cover in areas we were short in. Apples to oranges really, but it looks like both will have good careers ahead of them. Statistically speaking (small sample) Palmer doesn’t go missing like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Maineblue said: He hardly got game time at City, no way was he worth £45m for which we sold him for, I’d put him in the £15m price category, yes he played ok yesterday but one swallow doesn’t make a summer. We should be getting Kalvin Phillips pretty much for free then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Probably already have someone in mind for that RW slot. Wouldn't be surprised if we wouldn't have seen Palmer as attainable. Think the move was a bit of a surprise all round. This is all fair. I’m just looking at the fee, wages, profile, age etc. he would’ve been perfect. Im glad we didn’t go in for Diaby. Good player but not what we need. Szob would’ve been good. Maddison would’ve been great. But Palmer is him. Im glad the lads we were linked with are good players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Statistically speaking (small sample) Palmer doesn’t go missing like. Barely noticed he was on the pitch v Brentford. Granted his age and position dictate he'll have games like that. Much like Maddison, he's looking good in a position we don't seem particularly intent on playing with. The one I have the most envy of is probably Szoboszlai. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, Wullie said: Hall is over 2 years younger than Palmer like. And almost half the fee, I don't understand where he's getting Hall money = Palmer money from Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Barely noticed he was on the pitch v Brentford. Granted his age and position dictate he'll have games like that. Much like Maddison, he's looking good in a position we don't seem particularly intent on playing with. The one I have the most envy of is probably Szoboszlai. Yep - he's the one that got away imho. Would've loved him at our place. Looks superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineblue Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, Erikse said: We should be getting Kalvin Phillips pretty much for free then. nah I think you can give us £60m for Kalvin, just loose change down the back of the sofa for super rich Newcastle ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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