Matt1892 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 It seems like he has lost the support of the players in terms of them having discipline in following his tactics, which could be due to him having no plan B and continuing to run people in to the ground despite the small group of players fit. 7 losses in 8 could easily be 10 losses in 11 come the end of the month, I don’t see how he survives that if it does happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava1892 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: What do the radgies have against Isak? It’s bloody weird and definitely a thing at the game too. Do you prefer Wilson’s manly tattoos or what? Just take a look at his work rate and understand what he gives you in 90mins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: After the amount of games we have had and the injuries and fatigue etc, 6 days is nowhere near enough to recover btw. Obviously that isn’t the only reason we are struggling mind. so you adapt and literally park the bus in a game like today. the fatigue and injuries are a genuine excuse but he has also played the hand dealt to him pretty poorly at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I agree, it is a point that missed. Last season has raised expectations, but it’s also bought Howe credit and time. I also doubt that the same patience would exist for a similar run if last season was just ok. Howe though did have last season, proving that he can do it - so I’m happy for him to get that time. Tbf few are calling for him to be sacked. They just want him to do better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Heh, you're the one throwing around abuse. Whatever, we're on very different pages. Happy New Year and fuck Klopp. Stop being a gaslighting prick and you might not get any abuse then eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, Dava1892 said: Just take a look at his work rate and understand what he gives you in 90mins. He provides genuine top class ability, and scores goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Matt1892 said: It seems like he has lost the support of the players in terms of them having discipline in following his tactics, which could be due to him having no plan B and continuing to run people in to the ground despite the small group of players fit. 7 losses in 8 could easily be 10 losses in 11 come the end of the month, I don’t see how he survives that if it does happen. Holy shit, we are trying to start this narrative now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: (1) at any point really. Rafa Benitez would not have had Trippier, Burn, Schar, Bruno, Gordon etc. play all those minutes. He would’ve played anyone else. I don’t accept that he’s had no choice but to burn out our best players. (2) it doesn’t take £500m worth of players to stop having a massive gap between defence and midfield game after game. I don’t think any other manager in the top 6 gets us to the CL last season. I have not forgotten that. But I don’t think no other manager in the top 6 does as poorly away from home this season or manages fitness so badly from the start of the season. 1) So we're using a hypothetical scenario as a stick to beat him with? 2) Earlier on in the season I may judge agreed with us, but at present the midfield are utterly knackered. Decision making and reaction timed is painfully slow in that area of the field at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: It seems like he has lost the support of the players in terms of them having discipline in following his tactics, which could be due to him having no plan B and continuing to run people in to the ground despite the small group of players fit. 7 losses in 8 could easily be 10 losses in 11 come the end of the month, I don’t see how he survives that if it does happen. This is literally fanfiction. The players are running themselves ragged for him, constantly talk about how great he is for their individual games, and you've somehow spun it into him losing their support. Wild. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 He's got to change formation in my book play with two sitting midfielders and stem the flow at which the opposition have been getting through us. Pick the starters and make the bench up with actual subs that can fill in in these positions nevermind two backup keepers, get a second string striker a winger from the reserves and give them minutes to alleviate the fatigue in our starters. Isak should never have to play 90 minutes when he's our only fit striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Dava1892 said: Just take a look at his work rate and understand what he gives you in 90mins. An absurd amount of goals given limited opportunities. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: What do the radgies have against Isak? It’s bloody weird and definitely a thing at the game too. Do you prefer Wilson’s manly tattoos or what? It’s that he can’t play at full intensity for 70 minutes. Let alone 90. I love him. But if he improved his stamina he would be close to world class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, The College Dropout said: Tbf few are calling for him to be sacked. They just want him to do better. I agree, and too many are reacting emotively to criticism and thinking it’s the same as calling for his head. It isn’t. And it’s a football forum - not sure what else folks are meant to talk about. I wouldn’t want to read lots of ostrich impersonators sticking their heads in the sand, telling me that shit is sugar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: It seems like he has lost the support of the players in terms of them having discipline in following his tactics, which could be due to him having no plan B and continuing to run people in to the ground despite the small group of players fit. 7 losses in 8 could easily be 10 losses in 11 come the end of the month, I don’t see how he survives that if it does happen. He survives because of what he has done in the 2 years leading up to that. Hopefully our board are smart enough to see Howe had his squad playing above themselves and that there are very few managers who could squeeze as much out of these players as he has Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: It seems like he has lost the support of the players in terms of them having discipline in following his tactics, which could be due to him having no plan B and continuing to run people in to the ground despite the small group of players fit. 7 losses in 8 could easily be 10 losses in 11 come the end of the month, I don’t see how he survives that if it does happen. They could just be physically and mentally cooked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I still maintain he deserves to see the season out no matter what happens, we can start evaluating and planning towards the end of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 The derby is undoubtedly huge even if it wasn't the derby. The FA Cup is all that is left of this season to play for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: He provides genuine top class ability, and scores goals. The Isak criticism is lost on me. The lad gobbles up chances when he gets them. We need to work on getting him the ball more often in more dangerous positions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Simple question - if people are doubting Howe (which they are entitled to do), then who do we replace him with? Also, do you expect the replacement to perform much better under the current circumstances (current squad and injuries)? If the answer is ‘no’, then does it not point towards the current situation being the key factor, and not Howe’s skill as a manager. Personally, I think he’s easily earnt the right to manage until at least the end of this season by which point injury levels have hopefully dropped to more reasonable levels. He’s definitely not beyond blame and I think he seriously needs a Plan B at times (he relies too much on bullying teams with our physicality) and his over reliance on key individuals which has pretty much knackered them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Howe got absolutely pelters for bringing Ritchie on against Chelsea. But now people would have been happy for him starting numerous games in the league for us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava1892 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Ronaldo said: An absurd amount of goals given limited opportunities. Agreed. Agreed but there can be more to his game, a whole lot more. He looked wrecked tonight and didn’t even break a sweat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 He can loss all the games this season and l still back him to be our manager. We need to sack the director of Football and the scouting team not Eddie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, ponsaelius said: The derby is undoubtedly huge even if it wasn't the derby. The FA Cup is all that is left of this season to play for. Yep. If we were to lose that'll be 3 consecutive seasons under Howe we've been knocked out in the 3rd Round by a team from a lower league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, ponsaelius said: The derby is undoubtedly huge even if it wasn't the derby. The FA Cup is all that is left of this season to play for. I care very little for the derby itself, mainly due to the fact that I seemingly never have to deal with mackems. I'll be much more pissed off to be out of a cup that we could actually win if conditions are right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Wandy said: Stop being a gaslighting prick and you might not get any abuse then eh? What the fuck are you on about? I didn't gaslight you at all. If you're calling their performance 'a disgrace,' after everything these players and staff have given, then you are entitled. I tried to end this exchange, btw, but you're coming back with more abuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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