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I think the damning part for me is even if we had won I would have been worried. We looked awful...again. We've had one spell of three games where we looked like a team, the rest of the season has been us groping to put one foot in front of the other. We've largely been shit, can't really see how to describe it as anything other.

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Will never shout for him to be sacked but these performances we are seeing are the norm these days. I hope he can turn it around but I have my doubts to be honest. Will back him as long as he's here though.

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Talking about managers that are out there, I know absolutely nowt about Conceicao so I'll give that article a read that KaKa's posted. But after reading many a James Horncastle article about him recently I'd also take Allegri. However, whether he'd manage outside of Italy for the first time here is incredibly debatable and I don't think those upstairs would go for him.

 

I think Howe's got the season regardless unless we totally capitulate and tumble toward the bottom 3.

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1 minute ago, Bally21 said:

Do one with the jose M craic.... has been, yesterday's man, defacates on nearly everything, a journey man who looks to sign a big contract, then designs a way to get sacked and payed off..

As is Rafa imo - we need to be more forward thinking than him imo.

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13 minutes ago, Sima said:
15 minutes ago, mighty__mag said:

I'm not enjoying the way we play anymore, the system was better when we had wingers like Almiron and ASM, this whole Barnes or Gordon headache, likewise Tonali or Longstaff, is just irritating, there's a massive sway from the manager to use Gordon anywhere no matter what, it's what I think anyway, not sure ifv anyone else does? Similar with Bruno he's undrinkable for Howe, I also think making Bruno captain hasn't helped at all, it's totally upset the squad harmony, we were captained better under Trippier. 

 

Feel Eddie has given the newer bunch of players the power over the grafters that saved us from relegation, and contributed hugely to our qualifying for the UCL. 

 

I'm always backing Eddie Howe, I believe in him, but he's a bit stubborn, and he has his favorites.  I'd not really want him out for the sake of it, especially for someone like Jose Mourinho, however if Thomas Frank was able to be convinced to come here, that would be appealing. 

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9 minutes ago, KDT said:

Funny how replies and comments in here would change in 90 seconds of 1-0 to 1-1.


No it wouldn't I certainly would have been saying that the performance was shit and 0 efforts in 98 minutes against the second bottom team in the table is not good enough 

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9 minutes ago, Astroblack said:

Not even questioning Eddie, don’t even come into this thread. 
 

Prem’s just very competitive at the moment and in any other season, say, game week 13 of the 98/99 season, a team would be 7th with a points total of 19. 
 

Our upcoming two months of fixtures look promising and maybe a five game win streak could shoot you up the league, which I do think this team of capable of. 
 

Whoever said, Mourinho, no. That would send up club into a tailspin. We have to look at the long term project. Eddie’s our guy and we’re supporting him all the way. 


We’ve been playing shit since Aug, that’s not down to the competitiveness of the league, it’s down to us being shit.
 

And us being shit for multiple games is down to the players and the management 

 

I like Eddie a lot and would give him a massive amount of leeway, but I can see with my own eyes that we’re shit in far too many games 

 

This isn’t a blip, it’s now become the norm 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Still think the biggest issue is the stagnation off the pitch and the inability to mix things up/refresh the squad. Given the constraints we really needed to be more ruthless and proactive in the transfer market to build a more balanced squad. Some of the blue chip players we've retained and banked on building our season around (Bruno, Gordon) have been atrocious tbh.

 

I think Howe deserves a fair amount of criticism for the way we're playing but I also honestly don't think changing manager is going to make a huge amount of difference given where the club/squad level is at right now. Indeed I think there's just as much chance the inadequacies would be exposed even more under a different coach.

 

 

 

Fully agree. Additions keep momentum going even if an illisusion and things get refreshed. Even if its just one addition to title winners. Its rare to stand still. Can think of teams that won the league then did nothing and dropped way off as a result the following season as well as our own experiences from the extremes of under Ashley and with Sir Bobby. Its no guarantee things will get get better or even not go backwards but stagnating re players seems to always lead to a drop off.

 

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19 minutes ago, mouldy_uk said:

Find it hard to know what to write about him. Not just today but I find myself bouncing between two points of view:

 

If I’m feeling kind - He’s a great ambassador for the club, has a pretty decent record (overall) and was dealt a dreadful hand in the summer window. I desperately want success with him in-charge.  
 

If I’m being cruel - Injuries are no longer excuse and we have an 11 that should be beating most teams. Tactically we are just rubbish. Beyond the high press, I just don’t see any plan and most of our players have gone backwards this season. Set pieces are shocking. Should we expect much else from a manager who has never won anything and looks well off the elite level?

 

Overall, I’d still back him in the January window but I’d be looking at other options if we aren’t top 6 at the end of the season. 

 

 

That's a decent take. It's more difficult because compared to what we were used to, Howe has been such a breath of fresh air. He's intelligent, and as you say, the perfect ambassador for our club. It's difficult to imagine someone who would put more heart and soul into it, and you really can't undervalue that.

 

But he does seem to know only one way to set a team out, and if that doesn't work, he's lost. Losing an FA cup final to a rank Man U side was maybe more telling than some of us thought at the time. He's a good manager, just not sure he's got the tools to compete with the best.

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1 minute ago, Big Geordie said:

Howe - 'it hurts - game wasn't free flowing. Happy with our defending. Isak took a knock to the hip and had to come off. Feels like a defeat, but it's a point on the road and it could be important by the end of the season'.

I absolutely hate his post match interviews.

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25 minutes ago, mouldy_uk said:

Find it hard to know what to write about him. Not just today but I find myself bouncing between two points of view:

 

If I’m feeling kind - He’s a great ambassador for the club, has a pretty decent record (overall) and was dealt a dreadful hand in the summer window. I desperately want success with him in-charge.  
 

If I’m being cruel - Injuries are no longer excuse and we have an 11 that should be beating most teams. Tactically we are just rubbish. Beyond the high press, I just don’t see any plan and most of our players have gone backwards this season. Set pieces are shocking. Should we expect much else from a manager who has never won anything and looks well off the elite level?

 

Overall, I’d still back him in the January window but I’d be looking at other options if we aren’t top 6 at the end of the season. 

Bang on. Exactly where I'm at. 

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