Eddie Howe

[astraguy]

10 minutes ago, David Edgar said:

I don't want him out. He needs to accept things aren't working now. Need to see an improvement in the next month.

 

He needs to find a way to start Barnes and Tonali. 

This, The summer window was a car crash that wasn't down to him, Jan will be huge and i hope we move on a few players 

[SUPERTOON]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Needs to drop more ‘dust waselves down’?

Maybe just a bit more honesty would do.

[Dr.Spaceman]

18 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

We’ve been playing shit since Aug, that’s not down to the competitiveness of the league, it’s down to us being shit.
 

And us being shit for multiple games is down to the players and the management 

 

I like Eddie a lot and would give him a massive amount of leeway, but I can see with my own eyes that we’re shit in far too many games 

 

This isn’t a blip, it’s now become the norm 

 

 

 

 

 

We've been shit since before then

[Keegans Export]

6 minutes ago, La Parka said:

Anyone think he lost the dressing room? 

Personally I don't think so.

 

I think the issue is that we've gone hard at the Champions League qualification, attracted the likes of Bruno, Isak to achieve that, which we did. The problem is we've gone backwards since then so how do you re-motivate those players? I think missing out on Europe all together has been a pretty big psychological blow to our top players and that's reflected in their performances. Could they be casting jealous eyes at other players at other clubs? If you're even 10% off it at PL level, it'll show.

 

Now it'd be absolutely fair to say that the players should still be able to motivate themselves to go again but we all know it isn't that simple.

[The Butcher]

I'm not even sure a technical RW would solve owt, as we look absolutely clueless in possession. Howe doesn't have possession football in his locker imo and that will stop him from ever becoming a great manager.

[et tu brute]

4 minutes ago, astraguy said:

This, The summer window was a car crash that wasn't down to him, Jan will be huge and i hope we move on a few players 

Depends who you believe as Mitchell basically refuted what Howe was saying 

[Astroblack]

5 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

We can have more than zero shots against Palace though

Isak did go off…

[Kid Icarus]

[AyeDubbleYoo]

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Maybe just a bit more honesty would do.

I know, I was being a nob. Soz. 

[Smal]

I'm really starting to feel like poor individual performances are costing him more than anything. Some of the stuff we've seen from Bruno and Gordon - two of our most important players last season - has been really inexplicable and nothing to do with coaching or tactics. They just don't look like very good players at all this season. It's hard to account for your best players just not doing it at all as a manager. 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2024 by Smal

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

Personally I don't think so.

 

I think the issue is that we've gone hard at the Champions League qualification, attracted the likes of Bruno, Isak to achieve that, which we did. The problem is we've gone backwards since then so how do you re-motivate those players? I think missing out on Europe all together has been a pretty big psychological blow to our top players and that's reflected in their performances. Could they be casting jealous eyes at other players at other clubs? If you're even 10% off it at PL level, it'll show.

 

Now it'd be absolutely fair to say that the players should still be able to motivate themselves to go again but we all know it isn't that simple.

 

 

If that's true, the answer is to sell them and start again. Although underperforming players inevitably drop in value so not ideal to sell in those circumstances, but not really sure what choice we have. They are on too much wedge now to be performing consistently poorly.

[Ste]

I think there's quite a few players who have lost faith in the project and are looking elsewhere. The position we were in in the summer, I think a fair few players were touted around to get us out of our PSR mess, players who have served us well who will be more than miffed that their contribution and commitment has been disregarded. 

 

I think they still have faith in Howe, so I don't think he has lost the dressing room, more that the higher ups have. 

[Danh1]

31 minutes ago, Astroblack said:

Not even questioning Eddie, don’t even come into this thread. 
 

Prem’s just very competitive at the moment and in any other season, say, game week 13 of the 98/99 season, a team would be 7th with a points total of 19. 
 

Our upcoming two months of fixtures look promising and maybe a five game win streak could shoot you up the league, which I do think this team of capable of. 
 

Whoever said, Mourinho, no. That would send up club into a tailspin. We have to look at the long term project. Eddie’s our guy and we’re supporting him all the way. 

Upcoming two months of fixtures may be good, but our last two fixtures were good and we haven’t looked like scoring in the main. 

[TRon]

Just now, Smal said:

I'm really starting to feel like poor individual performances are costing him more than anything. Some of the stuff we've seen from Bruno and Gordon - two of our most important players last season - has been really inexplicable and nothing to do with coaching or tactics. They just don't look like very good players at all this season. 

 

That doesn't explain the inability of the team in general to string a few passes together.

[Yorkie]

1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

We've been shit since before then

 

We haven't at all. W6 D2 L2 with 2.6 goals per game since (and including) the West Ham Barnes game.

 

We weren't really shit at all last season, we finished 7th with a huge points haul relative to our modern history. 

 

This season is a different story. We got problems with less (not zero) mitigation. 

[SUPERTOON]

I do think he deserves to see the league cup run through regardless of anything else.

[bobbydazzla]

8 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

We've been shit since before then

Aye, but after the injury carnage of last season I was hoping to wipe the slate clean over the summer and see more of a 22/23 NUFC ethos this season 
 

But we’ve been properly honking 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2024 by bobbydazzla

[Smal]

2 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

That doesn't explain the inability of the team in general to string a few passes together.

It goes some of the way to explaining it though, because those two have been very important to how we play and at times they don't look like they can control a ball or kick one straight this season. 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2024 by Smal

[joeyt]

5 minutes ago, Astroblack said:

Isak did go off…

 

Ah that makes it fine then

[TRon]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

I do think he deserves to see the league cup run through regardless of anything else.

 

He needs to see the season out. It could still turn around on a few good games, he should have enough credit in the bank to have earned that.

[Pilko]

1 minute ago, Smal said:

It goes some of the way to explaining it though, because those two have been very important to how we play and at times they don't look like they can control a ball or kick one straight this season. 

 

 

 

 

Part of that is on him to either drop them or find a system that does work for them, and he's failed to do either so far.

[vexred]

11 minutes ago, astraguy said:

This, The summer window was a car crash that wasn't down to him, Jan will be huge and i hope we move on a few players 

 

He has to take some blame. The balance of the team is horrible. His tactics and the balance means we only have one way of playing. 

 

I'd make a change in the summer if an elite manager becomes available. 

 

[TRon]

1 minute ago, Pilko said:

 

Part of that is on him to either drop them or find a system that does work for them, and he's failed to do either so far.

 

Plus we've spent enough on that squad where no one bar the striker should be irrplaceable. We've had a very strong bench in the last couple of games which shows there are options.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, vexred said:

 

He has to take some blame. The balance of the team is horrible. His tactics and the balance means we only have one way of playing. 

 

I'd make a change in the summer if an elite manager becomes available. 

 

Do you think we can attract an elite manager? 

[Ronson333]

It’s really showing how shit West Ham really are and we made them look amazing