Eddie Howe

[TRC]

28 minutes ago, midds said:

End of the season can't come soon enough, just utterly fed up and done with this utter abortion of a season. It's been setback after gut-punch after kick in the balls. Frustrating doesn't even touch the sides and it's on and off the pitch too, the players, management and recruitment teams have all grossly underperformed to various degrees and I don't even think it's debatable to say we've taken several steps backwards and we're undoubtedly a worse team than we were a couple of years ago. 

 

Just massively pissed off with how it's panned out and I've already checked out mentally this season. I'll still watch the odd game but it's been dreadful for months. Every person associated with trying to move this club forward needs to have a serious word with themselves, it's been a complete shitshow since May

Yep, have close to no interest in the Man U game this week now. Just want it all to end

[andyc35i]

I’m so intrigued to see how he handles the squad over the next 10 days. I really think the Man City game is huge for us as that’s a competition we could actually go deep in

[LiquidAK]

1 minute ago, Erikse said:

 

Why on earth did we have to go all in on Carabao in a season like this then? If that load was going to break us, was that a risk worth taking for the very slight chance that we might win it again, in a season where the game load is going to make it very hard for us to win it anyways? That was several extra games for key players (even against Bradford) on an already heavy load, and then it probably caused us to have to play 2 extra games in the CL aswell, given how close we were to top 8. We're not Man City who can compete on 4 fronts, so we need to prioritize.

Yes. Winning trophies is what it's ALL about. And given we got to the semis, AGAIN, it was justified.

[Erikse]

11 minutes ago, LiquidAK said:

Yes. Winning trophies is what it's ALL about. And given we got to the semis, AGAIN, it was justified.

 

Allright, so we have to accept that the season will fall apart just incase there was a tiny chance of winning it again. While literally everyone else rorates more because they don't care about trophies.

 

 

Edited February 28 by Erikse

[LiquidAK]

8 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Allright, so we have to accept that the season will fall apart just incase there was a chance. While literally everyone else rorates more because they don't care about trophies.

The teams that rotate more are generally the ones that have the squads to do so and still be competitive. Other non-cartel Premier League sides tend to give it a good go because trophies matter.

 

"Literally everyone" is nonsense. I picked at random Fulham as the team we played in the last round before we were knocked out, and in their first game against fucking Cambridge United they played a bunch of first team players. I don't know their team well but loads of recognisable names there, so don't think they rotated any more or less than we did playing the likes of Krafth & Osula against Bradford.

 

You'd have a better time arguing if you didn't just make easily refutable shit up to prove your point.

 

 

Edited February 28 by LiquidAK

[TRon]

12 minutes ago, andyc35i said:

I’m so intrigued to see how he handles the squad over the next 10 days. I really think the Man City game is huge for us as that’s a competition we could actually go deep in

 

 

Hopefully he'll go back to deploying players in their actual positions again. We had three playing in unnatural roles today, and while it might work against physically challenged teams in Europe, it tends not to in the EPL. 

[Keefaz]

23 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Good job we played the shittest Spurs team of all time. 

[Yorkie]

"Why did we bother to compete for the trophy we won last year?" - packaged as Howe criticism - is pretty fucking mental, like. I appreciate that I'm already one of the types to say you're not allowed to criticise, but that really is quite the bullshit take.

[LiquidAK]

Just now, Yorkie said:

"Why did we bother to compete for the trophy we won last year?" - packaged as Howe criticism - is pretty fucking mental, like. I appreciate that I'm already one of the types to say you're not allowed to criticise, but that really is quite the bullshit take.

How any Newcastle fan in the world can look at the scenes from March 2025 and genuinely say "let's sack that off this year" is completely inconceivable to me.

[Erikse]

12 minutes ago, LiquidAK said:

The teams that rotate more are generally the ones that have the squads to do so and still be competitive. Other Premier League sides tend to give it a good go because trophies matter.

 

"Literally everyone" is nonsense. I picked at random Fulham as the team we played in the last round before we were knocked out, and in their first game against fucking Cambridge United they played a bunch of first team players. I don't know their team well but loads of recognisable names there, so don't think they rotated any more or less than we did playing the likes of Krafth & Osula against Bradford.

 

You'd have a better time arguing if you didn't just make easily refutable shit up to prove your point.

 

If we weren't in Europe just like Fulham aren't, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. We started Joelinton, Bruno, Gordon, Thiaw and Botman against Bradford. All of them started again against Arsenal a few days later, and most other games aswell. You don't think that Barnes, Lascelles and Willock, who were on the bench in both, were good enough to play against Bradford? 

 

 

Edited February 28 by Erikse

[Erikse]

10 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

"Why did we bother to compete for the trophy we won last year?" - packaged as Howe criticism - is pretty fucking mental, like. I appreciate that I'm already one of the types to say you're not allowed to criticise, but that really is quite the bullshit take.

 

It's about being realistic. This year we are in Europe, big difference. The outcome was that we had to play 2 games against Man City after a load that our squad isn't made for (which is the arguments being made here), and it wasn't close. Last year we beat Arsenal with a fit squad.

 

Anyways, as per my last post, it's not like we're giving up the Carabao by starting Willock, Barnes and Lascelles against Bradford for instance. I didn't say that we should have given it up. There's a big gap between giving it up and going all in.

 

Now, what are our chances in the FA Cup then, after this heavy load?

 

 

Edited February 28 by Erikse

[dcmk]

32 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said:

 

I won’t carry on the conversation as it’s boring, but just to set the record straight I would’ve stayed (and will do) ‘disappeared’, but only commented as you asked where I had gone, assuming to make a lazy point like you have above that I had stopped posting purely as things had got better.

 

If you want me to send proof of Whatsapp messages of my praise for Howe and the team over the last few weeks, ping me a message  
 

Your point is also ridiculed by the fact I haven’t logged in to post any criticism, despite the performance and result today. 

Anyway, get outside and enjoy your evening rather than thinking about me x

Oh you're back today.  Haven't seen you around for a while.

[LiquidAK]

4 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

If we weren't in Europe just like Fulham aren't, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. We started Joelinton, Bruno, Gordon, Thiaw and Botman against Bradford. All of them started again against Arsenal a few days later, and most other games aswell. You don't think that Barnes, Lascelles and Willock, who were on the bench in both, were good enough to play against Bradford? 

 

 

 

Barnes sure. Willock was recently back from (another) injury and had started against Bournemouth 3 days before (a game we made 7 changes from for the Carabao game btw). I'm sure you'd have been very understanding if Howe had played him twice in 4 days and he'd picked up (ANOTHER) long term injury.

 

Lascelles made me laugh, not sure he's been fit enough to play against a pub side at any point in the last year, whether on the bench or not.

 

[TheEntertainer]

Not really sure which thread to put this in, but this is a major worry, the only team worse than us in the entire league on form are the absolutely dreadful Spurs (and without their existence we'd be even worse as that's our win), it had felt like we were turning a bit of a corner, but this is super rough reading. 

 

 

 

Edited February 28 by TheEntertainer

[La Parka]

3 minutes ago, TheEntertainer said:

Not really sure which thread to put this in, but this is a major worry, the only team worse than us in the entire league on form are the absolutely dreadful Spurs (and without their existence we'd be even worse as that's our win), it had felt like we were turning a bit of a corner, but this is super rough reading. 

 

 

 

 

It's not going to get better either. The next few games are brutal.

 

I've said it since October. Closer to relegation than Europe. Seasons been a write off for various reasons. 

[Erikse]

7 minutes ago, LiquidAK said:

Barnes sure. Willock was recently back from (another) injury and had started against Bournemouth 3 days before (a game we made 7 changes from for the Carabao game btw). I'm sure you'd have been very understanding if Howe had played him twice in 4 days and he'd picked up (ANOTHER) long term injury.

 

Lascelles made me laugh, not sure he's been fit enough to play against a pub side at any point in the last year, whether on the bench or not.

 

 

True, we actually rested Bruno against Bournemouth in a 0-0 game to play him against Bradford.

 

I forgot Trippier, who was also on the bench for all 3 games that week, while Livra started all 3 games including Bradford.

[Heron]

Everton (h)

Man City (a)

Brentford (h)

Liverpool (a)

Villa (h)

 

 

3 of 5 are definitely less than you'd expect. But we have to consider Liverpool and Man City would be difficult away games for virtually the entire league as would even third placed Aston Villa.

 

Bit of perspective is needed whilst likewise I am not trying to polish a turd.

[TheEntertainer]

2 minutes ago, Heron said:

Everton (h)

Man City (a)

Brentford (h)

Liverpool (a)

Villa (h)

 

 

3 of 5 are definitely less than you'd expect. But we have to consider Liverpool and Man City would be difficult away games for virtually the entire league as would even third placed Aston Villa.

 

Bit of perspective is needed whilst likewise I am not trying to polish a turd.

Realistically you would expect 10/12 points from our last 6 games? We've got 3. True you can't expect much against City and Liverpool away, but the rest of the games aren't particularly hard. I'd say that's a reasonable cross section of games in the last 6, 2 very hard, 1 easy and 3 somewhere in the middle. 

[Heron]

2 minutes ago, TheEntertainer said:

Realistically you would expect 10/12 points from our last 6 games? We've got 3. True you can't expect much against City and Liverpool away, but the rest of the games aren't particularly hard. I'd say that's a reasonable cross section of games in the last 6, 2 very hard, 1 easy and 3 somewhere in the middle. 

For me Brentford and Everton should have been wins and Villa a draw. So yeah - 10 points (including Spurs). It's been poor - but not catastrophic as Joe everyone will portray for the next 3 days minimum.

 

 

Edited February 28 by Heron

[TheEntertainer]

6 minutes ago, Heron said:

For me Brentford and Everton should have been wins and Villa a draw. So yeah - 10 points (including Spurs). It's been poor - but not catastrophic as Joe everyone will portray for the next 3 days minimum.

 

 

 

I think it's been shockingly bad, 30% of the points gained you would expect? I'd not get away with 30% performance in my job! I honestly don't know what the answer is though, although I know it's not Eddie out but there's no way to hide the fact we've been miles below where we should be in the league recently. If we'd been on this form all season we'd finish on 19 points (I appreciate that's not really a fair comparison but it gives you an idea as to how bad we've been recently in the league)

 

 

Edited February 28 by TheEntertainer

[Andy84]

1 hour ago, TRC said:

Yep, have close to no interest in the Man U game this week now. Just want it all to end

No interest? Fuck that 

[LiquidAK]

16 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

True, we actually rested Bruno against Bournemouth in a 0-0 game to play him against Bradford.

 

I forgot Trippier, who was also on the bench for all 3 games that week, while Livra started all 3 games including Bradford.

What's your point exactly? Tino's injury was an impact one, nothing to do with being overplayed. Your original point that "literally everyone rotates more" was shit, not only do other teams give the cups a good go, we rotated a fair bit ourselves. Now we didn't rotate the right players or enough. 

 

1 hour ago, LiquidAK said:

Third (unfriendly) reminder that I hate an ever-growing number of you.

 

[Erikse]

4 minutes ago, LiquidAK said:

What's your point exactly? Tino's injury was an impact one, nothing to do with being overplayed. Your original point that "literally everyone rotates more" was shit, not only do other teams give the cups a good go, we rotated a fair bit ourselves. Now we didn't rotate the right players or enough. 

 

 

 

I didn't mention his injury. Did you forget that your original point was about how devastating playing extra games is for us? Is it not then out of utmost importance to not play key players in games where they don't need to?

 

 

Edited February 28 by Erikse

[Mountain]

47 minutes ago, Keefaz said:

Good job we played the shittest Spurs team of all time. 

 

No wonder Thomas Frank got sacked! Losing to us was simply unforgiveable.

 

 

[Heron]

5 minutes ago, TheEntertainer said:

I think it's been shockingly bad, 30% of the points gained you would expect? I'd not get away with 30% performance in my job! I honestly don't know what the answer is though, although I know it's not Eddie out but there's no way to hide the fact we've been miles below where we should be in the league recently. If we'd been on this form all season we'd finish on 19 points (I appreciate that's not really a fair comparison but it gives you an idea as to how bad we've been recently in the league)

 

 

 

Aye. 30% recently but not overall. We all have ups and downs. You're ultimately right though. We need to find solutions to our existing problems. Unfortunately for us I think that, that will be in the summer.