ScottishMagpie Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 My faith has been restored. So many well balanced posts this morning. Understand some have concerns but some of the shite getting typed has been fucking embarrassing. Get him in pronto and get moving up this lifting league!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I agree , get Howe in and get the absolute weapons mouths shut on Twitter. Id have snapped ya hands off for him 3 months ago , we should be lucky to have him . The comments against him are embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, ScottishMagpie said: My faith has been restored. So many well balanced posts this morning. Understand some have concerns but some of the shite getting typed has been fucking embarrassing. Get him in pronto and get moving up this lifting league!! opinions aren't embarrassing. I just think we as a fan base have been absolutely battered for so long that we all hoped the takeover would put an end to it. Its actually increased the battering and the last few days have increased it further, when in fact it was so avoidable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) If you aren't excited by Howe, that's fair enough but at least be content. Content that the guy won't talk shite in the press. Content that he's a genuinely good coach. Content that he will play adventurous attacking football. Content with progress. Content with positive change. If we still get relegated, so be it. Eddie Howe is more than capable of swashbuckling us back up at the first time of asking. Edited November 4, 2021 by STM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I’m not massively excited by Howe but I will be massively excited to go into a new managerial appointment in the knowledge that the club are actually trying to improve. It’s a bonus personally that he likes to play attacking football as I like to watch it! I’m sure they’ll back him appropriately in Jan and if so, we’ll stay up. We just need to stay up this season, everything else is noise. Howe will get my support until he proves he doesn’t deserve it anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Notice the comments here, lots of Newcastle fans very happy with the prospect Howe was tactically aware. Shame all it took was a takeover for everything to be forgotten. We tried Emery we tried high calibre but they haven't accepted, though not sure on Fonseca or Favre what happened since. The video itself is well posted but the comments I'm focusing on by our fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 First English Premier League winning manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, Awaymag said: opinions aren't embarrassing. I just think we as a fan base have been absolutely battered for so long that we all hoped the takeover would put an end to it. Its actually increased the battering and the last few days have increased it further, when in fact it was so avoidable. I don't see how moving from an ownership structure who deliberately handicap the club, to one who made a mistake trying to act in the best interests of the club is a 'battering' though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, STM said: If you aren't excited by Howe, that's fair enough but at least be content. Content that the guy won't talk shite in the press. Content that he's a genuinely good coach. Content that he will play adventurous attacking football. Content with progress. Content with positive change. If we still get relegated, so be it. Eddie Howe is more than capable of swashbuckling us back up at the first time of asking. Really important point this. Some people need to take stock and realise what’s actually happened recently, we’ve actually got something to look forward to now. The club are trying to improve, that’s massive. So you don’t think the new manager is amazing? Fine, but give him a chance, go and support the team with your full chest, so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTL Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I'm hoping he does well if he comes in, doesn't really matter who you get in and even big names bring no certainty it will work. I'll give him till after January and see how we are doing before making any judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, STM said: If you aren't excited by Howe, that's fair enough but at least be content. Content that the guy won't talk shite in the press. Content that he's a genuinely good coach. Content that he will play adventurous attacking football. Content with progress. Content with positive change. If we still get relegated, so be it. Eddie Howe is more than capable of swashbuckling us back up at the first time of asking. Good post but I wouldn’t take it as a given that he wouldn’t be sacked if we are relegated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Love how it’s bedwetting it even slightly question a guy who during his last job literally relegated a team. I’ll get behind him, and I don’t think he’s a terrible manager but that run of form they had was truly abysmal. Worse than anything under pardew or Bruce To be fair, people are saying stuff like 'that's us relegated'. That's not questioning him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Love how it’s bedwetting it even slightly question a guy who during his last job literally relegated a team. I’ll get behind him, and I don’t think he’s a terrible manager but that run of form they had was truly abysmal. Worse than anything under pardew or Bruce Klopp got Mainz relegated then, stayed and couldn't get them repromoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Love how it’s bedwetting it even slightly question a guy who during his last job literally relegated a team. I’ll get behind him, and I don’t think he’s a terrible manager but that run of form they had was truly abysmal. Worse than anything under pardew or Bruce I’m sure that based on everything I’ve read about the man, and listened to him speak in these YouTube videos and old interviews - he’s probably learned a ton from that and will look to rectify that if ever presented with that scenario (hopefully not). Think he’ll get the heartbeat of the city and the stadium fairly quickly, such is how reflective and intentional he seems. He will hold this job and club with the utmost respect and I guarantee he will never speak of us like Bruce or Pardew ever did (which is not saying much, but it never should happen). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Love how it’s bedwetting it even slightly question a guy who during his last job literally relegated a team. I’ll get behind him, and I don’t think he’s a terrible manager but that run of form they had was truly abysmal. Worse than anything under pardew or Bruce He relegated a team. He also took them from League 2 to the PL and kept them there for 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Warmed to the idea of Howe now, and like others have touched on, I've probably been guilty myself of just expecting a 'bigger' name automatically because we have £££. Yes Emery would have a been a bold statement, but fair play for going for blokes like that. For all we know, Howe could have been 8th choice. They've interviewed many candidates by the sounds of it, and if he's impressed them then fair enough. Certainly sounds like he impressed more than Fonseca, who I wanted at first. So good on him and the board for identifying that. We are literally 19th and 6 points adrift. We're probably not the catch we (including I) think we are to many managers. Howe can hopefully keep us up and if he does well, great. 17th this year then midtable next year would be massive progress. Then we can reassess where we want to go summer 23. FWIW, I think everyone - including Howe - will realise long term he won't be the man, but for now let's get behind him and stay up. If he does well then he can leave and get another good job. Our new owners aren't buying us to have Eddie Howe as the face of their club long term, but he's about as good as we can hope for right now by the looks of it. We've probably been knocked back by a good few imo. Maybe underwhelming, but new owners + Howe is 10000000000000% better than Ashley + Bruce, which we were resigned to forever only 4 weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 My only real issue with Howe is how he spends money when he has a big budget, so if we have him alongside a good DoF I’ll be happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I don't see how moving from an ownership structure who deliberately handicap the club, to one who made a mistake trying to act in the best interests of the club is a 'battering' though. battering from the press, pundits and other fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTL Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Good post but I wouldn’t take it as a given that he wouldn’t be sacked if we are relegated They should really keep him if we go down unless someone becomes available that they prefer long term at can rebuild the whole structure e.g Rafa, it's going to be a tall order to keep us up this season already with this team and the way we have been playing, that's one if the main reasons nobody else will come in. Let's give the guy a chance as this team need much longer to get rid of most of this squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Awaymag said: opinions aren't embarrassing. I just think we as a fan base have been absolutely battered for so long that we all hoped the takeover would put an end to it. Its actually increased the battering and the last few days have increased it further, when in fact it was so avoidable. I agree to an extent. Everyone is entitled to an opinion on if Howe is right choice but for some to start on "oh, he'll play Ritchie" etc. is bollocks. Id happily trail through previous pages for examples but on my phone just now so feck that. If you thought NUFC getting taken over would stop us being battered you're mistaken. Not going in to conspiracy pish but folk are, and should be, worried about what we could do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Love how it’s bedwetting it even slightly question a guy who during his last job literally relegated a team. I’ll get behind him, and I don’t think he’s a terrible manager but that run of form they had was truly abysmal. Worse than anything under pardew or Bruce I just try looking at the bigger picture. Since Bobby; Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Hughton, Pardew, McClaren and Bruce. 8 managers that I'm comfortable that Howe pisses all over (respect to Hughton though) and only one of them did I feel was a good appointment at the time (Allardyce, boy I was wrong). That's 20 years worth of managers who have either failed or I didn't want. For once we have one I'm happy to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Richard Hughes was his technical director at Bournemouth but didn’t seem like he reported to him, and they had a scouting by committee or transfer committee approach. Every manager has hit and misses in terms of signings. seems like we’re going for more of a man city approach of having having a senior sporting director or DOF who is more of an administrative role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, GWN said: I agree , get Howe in and get the absolute weapons mouths shut on Twitter. Id have snapped ya hands off for him 3 months ago , we should be lucky to have him . The comments against him are embarrassing. The only thing that worries me about Howe is his defensive frailty’s and because were so suspect in defence. He is 1000x better than Bruce in every way, I just feel until we can build a team we would have been better with a more defensively minded coach with the players we have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 BTW @ManDoonI think everyone is entitled to have the discussion about Howe, with regards to pros and cons. I'm just in a positive frame of mind because the club is at least attempting to be positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, STM said: I just try looking at the bigger picture. Since Bobby; Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Hughton, Pardew, McClaren and Bruce. 8 managers that I'm comfortable that Howe pisses all over (respect to Hughton though) and only one of them did I feel was a good appointment at the time (Allardyce, boy I was wrong). That's 20 years worth of managers who have either failed or I didn't want. For once we have one I'm happy to have. agreed again, I was also guilty of thinking SA was a good appointment! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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