Manxst Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Lack of linked CM's is really worrying. What is this man seeing? from The Athletic yesterday: “Let’s start with the business they still want to do — which positions are they actively looking to strengthen? Come February 1, ideally, Newcastle will have signed — on top of Kieran Trippier and Chris Wood — two new centre-backs, a left-back, at least one central midfielder and another forward, while even a goalkeeper addition has not been ruled out.” “While a regular criticism of Lee Charnley, the previous managing director, was that multiple deals were rarely negotiated at the same time, Newcastle’s recruitment team have been attempting to sign players for several positions simultaneously.” “In midfield, beyond Lingard, several ambitious loan enquiries have been launched for, among others, Donny van de Beek at Manchester United, and Georginio Wijnaldum and Idrissa Gana Gueye at Paris Saint-Germain, to no avail yet. There is, though, a realisation that players are more likely to move on loan towards the end of January, so there is hope quality temporary signings can still arrive. Todd Cantwell is also liked by Newcastle, though Norwich City’s asking price will need to drop for a deal to be reached. RB Leipzig’s Amadou Haidara, Marseille’s Boubacar Kamara and Lyon’s Bruno Guimaraes have also been scouted extensively.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Positive news. this administration seem very leaky. So I thought we would hear more about possible CM deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Elliottman said: Who else do we have in midfield that could have replaced Shelvey?! Good point - it’d be impossible for someone else to replace his glittering contribution of 1 goal, 0 assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 All our CMs are dire, I don’t think any combination results in a midfield that can really contribute or compete in a PL game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Positive news. this administration seem very leaky. So I thought we would hear more about possible CM deals. Or else certain other clubs and agents are ‘leaky’ and other clubs and agents are less so. No one knows for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Good point - it’d be impossible for someone else to replace his glittering contribution of 1 goal, 0 assists. so who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, Elliottman said: so who? Longstaff, Joelinton (slightly ahead of the other two) and Hayden would be our best midfield partnership right now, but one is crocked. With Hayden injured I’d have prioritised buying a DM, as @ManDoonhas said, even someone relatively unknown at £5m would be more beneficial than having Shelvey walk around the middle of the pitch. Or, I’d just play the two who are fit and change the formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: Lack of linked CM's is really worrying. What is this man seeing? Can't really answer that definitively until the 31st January. I have a hunch we'll get a CM in next week some time, might be on loan. The priority was said to be defenders and strikers, I can understand that, but we do need a CM, and by that I mean a genuine CM, not a floaty forward who can get in between the lines and score a nice goal such as Cantwell. We need someone who can operate box to box, who can tackle or press effectively, and has good possession stats as well. If we don't have one by the end of the window I would definitely be concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, TRon said: Can't really answer that definitively until the 31st January. I have a hunch we'll get a CM in next week some time, might be on loan. The priority was said to be defenders and strikers, I can understand that, but we do need a CM, and by that I mean a genuine CM, not a floaty forward who can get in between the lines and score a nice goal such as Cantwell. We need someone who can operate box to box, who can tackle or press effectively, and has good possession stats as well. If we don't have one by the end of the window I would definitely be concerned. Probably a bit OTT from me. But even if we get a couple of defenders and another striker in. I’d say we’re basically dead certs to go down if we try and plod on with this midfield until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Probably a bit OTT from me. But even if we get a couple of defenders and another striker in. I’d say we’re basically dead certs to go down if we try and plod on with this midfield until the end of the season. Agreed. It’s an essential before the end of the window for me, if we could only have 1 more signing it has to be a CM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Probably a bit OTT from me. But even if we get a couple of defenders and another striker in. I’d say we’re basically dead certs to go down if we try and plod on with this midfield until the end of the season. Agreed. A CM is right up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Lack of linked CM's is really worrying. What is this man seeing? Aye the knee bone's connected to the thigh bone. If we can't get the central-defender or forwards were after midfield is the next best thing. A good defensive minded one can cover a multitude of sins at the back. To say nothing of the fact that if everybody was fit (Fernandez/Wilson) it would be our weakest part of the field. Think its the worst I've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Aye the knee bone's connected to the thigh bone. If we can't get the central-defender or forwards were after midfield is the next best thing. A good defensive minded one can cover a multitude of sins at the back. To say nothing of the fact that if everybody was fit (Fernandez/Wilson) it would be our weakest part of the field. Think its the worst I've ever seen. yeah, I just hope that because the CM chatter is the quietest, it means that we are closing in on one or two. All the media and twitter chatter is BS, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Aye the knee bone's connected to the thigh bone. If we can't get the central-defender or forwards were after midfield is the next best thing. A good defensive minded one can cover a multitude of sins at the back. To say nothing of the fact that if everybody was fit (Fernandez/Wilson) it would be our weakest part of the field. Think its the worst I've ever seen. Despite having prime Wijnaldum & Sissoko available our managers choosing the Anita-Colback pivot is the worst i've ever seen. They didn't have age or injuries as an excuse. They were just bad. Shelvey being an improvement on them both is shocking stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Despite having prime Wijnaldum & Sissoko available our managers choosing the Anita-Colback pivot is the worst i've ever seen. They didn't have age or injuries as an excuse. They were just bad. Shelvey being an improvement on them both is shocking stuff. Not sure he was an improvement mind, but yeah that was terrible mis-management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I like Howe and I think he's the right guy for the job long term but I think he's painting himself into a corner with these older players for big money, imagine if we spend over £100 million and still go down ? The likes of Luke Edwards will have a field day comparing him to Steve Fuckin Bruce who kept us up for two seasons with no money. It's almost as though they expected certain players just to sign and they are now scrambling around looking for plan B, hopefully the next week will see a breakthrough, however things could turn with a big loss the Leeds at the weekend and it will be harder trying to convince players to come to a team with 12 points after 21 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Rafa rumours in the Independent this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, sempuki said: Rafa rumours in the Independent this morning. Bound to happen, wouldn’t put too much stock into it (yet). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, sempuki said: Rafa rumours in the Independent this morning. Easy one tbf, which will intensify , i predict relegation then Rafa back to lead us up. 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 just to add i dont think he should ever be back , as i keep saying, been there done that. Need to move on . That said he'd do the job in bringing us up mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, GWN said: just to add i dont think he should ever be back , as i keep saying, been there done that. Need to move on . That said he'd do the job in bringing us up mind So would Howe, and more easier on the eye. We have to stick with him even if we go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, HTT II said: So would Howe, and more easier on the eye. We have to stick with him even if we go down. If we go down he should be dispatched imo. Would love Rafa back personally BUT with some conditions. We have to become forward thinking so he would have to work within a structure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 If Howe has took us down after having three quarters of a season, I think he’s cooked. It would mean continuing the same form as the first half of the season - I’d have serious doubts we’d suddenly start winning next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, MarkyMark said: If Howe has took us down after having three quarters of a season, I think he’s cooked. It would mean continuing the same form as the first half of the season - I’d have serious doubts we’d suddenly start winning next season. Agreed - if we go, he goes imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 It’s more due to rewarding failure which is something we did consistently. If this season plays out with safety resulting in a Low points haul then Howe has no excuse. But that’s for future, I think most of us are behind him, but let’s not mistake that with us owing him anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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