LionOfGosforth Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It’s not clear to me that Howe got it wrong today like. We should’ve scored at least 2 goals and the ones we let in were soft. Man City are amazing. The miss from Wilson was terrible, and maybe Isak scores it. But apart from that you can see logic behind Howe’s decisions. I hope to see ASM, Isak and Targett play in the next couple. But this was a game where you can understand going for grafters. It's hard to remain balanced after our third defeat in as many games, by the same fucking score, after missing good chances in all 3. But this is where i'm (trying to be) at. We're maybe not quite as dynamic as we were in the Autumn but making chances is not our biggest issue, even with "tired" players. I do think maybe he was thinking that to change today, and lose anyway, was the wrong move.I'd expect 2-3 changes next week in a much more winnable game. Today was frustrating, but more to do with making and missing chances, than getting things massively wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) I backed his decision to play Wilson in the cup final as I thought it was the right thing to play the team that essentially got us into 4th place. Yet again though, in that game, Wilson did nothing to justify the faith that the manager put in him. He should have been dropped today, no question about it. If Wilson plays ahead of Isak next week then Eddie will feel his first bit of wrath from the support. Edited March 4, 2023 by Wandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Shame almost every team in the world disagrees. Worky ticket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pilko said: fuck off yourself, if you've got an axe to grind with me personally send me a PM. Happy to have it out in the open to be honest. No axe to grind whatsoever, I just remember you being super critical of Howe in the early days, with little to no retraction of the nonsense you posted. Hence, digs like that appear particularly cheap to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Hate inverted wingers. Left footer left wing right footer right wing. Simples. Its not just that. Nobody would put good money on whether ASM is going to cross first time, check one, twice, thrice and/or not get a cross in at all. I'll cut Wilson and Wood before him some slack on that, because you make the wrong run you're dead and it can fuck the whole attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Massively harsh We really don’t have the sample size for this kind of conclusion. Maybe. I don’t even think it’s necessarily wrong. But he’s not one to spring lots of changes. New players often start on the Bench for several games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It’s not clear to me that Howe got it wrong today like. We should’ve scored at least 2 goals and the ones we let in were soft. Man City are amazing. The miss from Wilson was terrible, and maybe Isak scores it. But apart from that you can see logic behind Howe’s decisions. I hope to see ASM, Isak and Targett play in the next couple. But this was a game where you can understand going for grafters. I hate the logic that Wilson missed the chance, Isak would have buried it that some people use. Not accusing you of using it, mind. Murphy flashed two brilliant balls across the box when Isak was on and he was nowhere near them. Infact nobody was. Isak clearly has a lot of ability and will turn into a great player for us but he's a totally different player to Wilson. In this system though he's prone to dropping too deep or drifting wide and not being in the right position for balls into the box at times. His style seems to fit a more fluid system where forwards interchange. Right now he looks great on the ball but then we often have nobody at all in the box. I don't think it's as simple as just hoying Isak into that front three instead of Wilson and everything will be much better. We will need to make adjustments elsewhere too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It’s not clear to me that Howe got it wrong today like. We should’ve scored at least 2 goals and the ones we let in were soft. Man City are amazing. The miss from Wilson was terrible, and maybe Isak scores it. But apart from that you can see logic behind Howe’s decisions. I hope to see ASM, Isak and Targett play in the next couple. But this was a game where you can understand going for grafters. What is the logic behind playing Wilson 2 months into this terrible form? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Just now, Dr Venkman said: What is the logic behind playing Wilson 2 months into this terrible form? If I was to guess, I’d say you would think Isak is different enough to Wilson to require significant changes in the attacking system. Which you don’t want to do just before a cup final and a game against the best team in the league. I do hope we see Isak start from now on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jaqen said: I hate the logic that Wilson missed the chance, Isak would have buried it that some people use. Not accusing you of using it, mind. Murphy flashed two brilliant balls across the box when Isak was on and he was nowhere near them. Infact nobody was. Isak clearly has a lot of ability and will turn into a great player for us but he's a totally different player to Wilson. In this system though he's prone to dropping too deep or drifting wide and not being in the right position for balls into the box at times. His style seems to fit a more fluid system where forwards interchange. Right now he looks great on the ball but then we often have nobody at all in the box. I don't think it's as simple as just hoying Isak into that front three instead of Wilson and everything will be much better. We will need to make adjustments elsewhere too. Totally agree, I think this is why Isak hasn’t taken over yet. I guess Howe think he needs to change more of the system and now wasn’t the right time to work on it. 8 days until the next game, hope for some changes now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Gets praised when he's doing a great job, but can't get criticised when things aren't going so great. Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Just now, Menace said: Gets praised when he's doing a great job, but can't get criticised when things aren't going so great. Interesting. Who said he can’t get criticised? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 What are the chances of finding a match of people in here crying about Howe needing to do changes and also being in the transfer threads in end Jan/beginning of Feb complaining about the lack of options to Howe? Targett is just back from a long injury, as is Isak. Beyond easing these two into the line-up, are there really much else he can do that would improve us? We've played three of the four best teams in the PL the last three games, one being in a final - hardly the appropriate opportunity to change things up. Incredibly predictable how the "trust in Eddie" has changed for so many. Saw someone call him "steady Eddie" in a thread today as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 56 minutes ago, Dyeyzzon said: We ended with a stronger team than we started, which says a lot about his stubbornness to change his starting XI. If I see Wilson and Burn in the starting XI next week we really have to wait for a red card or injury before we see a fresh approach. I thought it wasn't the worst plan as long as we didn't concede a poor goal early on. We competed well early doors, should have took the lead, and then you've got some real pace and skill to bring off the bench when there's more space in the second half. But we did concede the early goal, and that sort of kills the whole game plan. Everyone's a genius in hindsight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Some on here. Practically can't say a single negative thing regarding Howe or the transfer window without getting backlash. I'm indifferent, I think we're still in transit and he's still performing well above expectations however he needs to change a few things but still not that concerned in the grand scheme of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jaqen said: I hate the logic that Wilson missed the chance, Isak would have buried it that some people use. Not accusing you of using it, mind. Murphy flashed two brilliant balls across the box when Isak was on and he was nowhere near them. Infact nobody was. Isak clearly has a lot of ability and will turn into a great player for us but he's a totally different player to Wilson. In this system though he's prone to dropping too deep or drifting wide and not being in the right position for balls into the box at times. His style seems to fit a more fluid system where forwards interchange. Right now he looks great on the ball but then we often have nobody at all in the box. I don't think it's as simple as just hoying Isak into that front three instead of Wilson and everything will be much better. We will need to make adjustments elsewhere too. Isak just needs to be on the pitch, with or without Wilson. He's looked a far better all round footballer than Wilson when he has been on the pitch, has linked up well with others and regardless we have spent £63m on him to help us score goals. We're struggling to score goals and have been so far this calendar year yet he's only started 2 league games since his return from injury on the 2nd January. It's not making much sense now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Sadly see this kind of shit after every game we don’t win. Bunch of entitled cunts who deserve Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 And it begins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jaqen said: I hate the logic that Wilson missed the chance, Isak would have buried it that some people use. Not accusing you of using it, mind. Murphy flashed two brilliant balls across the box when Isak was on and he was nowhere near them. Infact nobody was. Isak clearly has a lot of ability and will turn into a great player for us but he's a totally different player to Wilson. In this system though he's prone to dropping too deep or drifting wide and not being in the right position for balls into the box at times. His style seems to fit a more fluid system where forwards interchange. Right now he looks great on the ball but then we often have nobody at all in the box. I don't think it's as simple as just hoying Isak into that front three instead of Wilson and everything will be much better. We will need to make adjustments elsewhere too. Fair, but recently Wilson hasn't contributed much else besides missing his chances either. He hasn't held the ball up or run the channels in the way Isak did in the time he was on. I know rapid subs against tired defenders have that advantage, but the point stands that he was making positive contributions we'd lacked. If you're not holding it up, not running the channels and not playing others in then you need to be finishing. He needs a rest and Isak needs a run of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Danh1 said: Sadly see this kind of shit after every game we don’t win. Bunch of entitled cunts who deserve Bruce. Thank fuck I don't bother with Twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Just now, TRon said: Thank fuck I don't bother with Twitter. I don’t either but people insist on making me read the shite on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don’t either but people insist on making me read the shite on here. It's unfortunate. Like kids under 10, some people should probably not be allowed phones unsupervised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 I hope Eddie learns from today. Wilson sould not be starting. Otherwise no grave complaints, it's too easy to criticize after a bad run, which every team has at some stage. I'm positive for the next game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Twitter isn't ever representative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, Danh1 said: Sadly see this kind of shit after every game we don’t win. Bunch of entitled cunts who deserve Bruce. Deserved to starve in that desert, the fucking whopper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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