Charlies Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/16331250.newcastle-will-have-to-pay-chelsea-premium-for-kenedy-deal/ Magpies officials are currently negotiating on a number of different fronts as they look to overhaul Rafael Benitez’s squad ahead of the start of pre-season training tomorrow. Good f***ing luck!!! The only part that intrigues me is the 'significant progress in the last few days with Chelsea' I'm going to need a long cold shower, if by some miracle they pull it off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 £25m for townsend. Choked when I read that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Would people be happy if we sold Mitro and Ritchie and brought in Pléa and Kenedy? We’d still be a winger short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Would people be happy if we sold Mitro and Ritchie and brought in Pléa and Kenedy? For sure if they are like-for-like replacements and not the only incomings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Would people be happy if we sold Mitro and Ritchie and brought in Pléa and Kenedy? Just about happy with that yeah. We'd still need a replacement for Ritchie though, unless Rafa's thinking of having him on the right and Murphy playing on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Rondon strikes me as another Joselu sort of deal, in that Rafa likes his work rate and hold up play rather than goal record. Obviously he'll be a lot better version, but still expensive unless he's scoring goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Would people be happy if we sold Mitro and Ritchie and brought in Pléa and Kenedy? We’d still be a winger short. Think next season with a run of games Murphy can make the step up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Assuming we sell Ritchie we need Townsend and Kenedy IMO, not that it will happen though. In an ideal world where Ashley isn't an utter cunt: Plea, Townsend, Kenedy, #10, full back and maybe a CM. Obviously in that scenario Ritchie, Merino and Mitrovic would be sold. Of course hardly any of this will actually happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Would people be happy if we sold Mitro and Ritchie and brought in Pléa and Kenedy? Just about happy with that yeah. We'd still need a replacement for Ritchie though, unless Rafa's thinking of having him on the right and Murphy playing on the left. I would be too; I can't see us forking out for those two AND Townsend. Would love to be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Would people be happy if we sold Mitro and Ritchie and brought in Pléa and Kenedy? We’d still be a winger short. Think next season with a run of games Murphy can make the step up. Not sure he can have the impact Ritchie had. His presence on and off-the field is absolutely massive for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Was just agent gossip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Not surprising, not a coincidence that the same shitty source kept reporting it and nobody else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 if he's agreeing personal terms then he's gone basically? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Massive massive signing for Stoke if he goes there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 More than one deal at at time?!? Be still my beating heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 More than one deal at at time?!? Be still my beating heart. They'll probably be the Ritchie and Mitro outgoings and trying to haggle as much as they possible can for Pléa. Tight bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Jesus - 80 big ones a week! Stoke will have to go up next season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Jesus - 80 big ones a week! Stoke will have to go up next season! We paid Shelvy that so that is their gamble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Jesus - 80 big ones a week! Stoke will have to go up next season! We paid Shelvy that so that is their gamble We were a Premier League team then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Jesus - 80 big ones a week! Stoke will have to go up next season! We paid Shelvy that so that is their gamble We were a Premier League team then! Also Stokes revenue outside of TV money is about half ours so the drop in Premier League money is going to hit them far harder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Jesus - 80 big ones a week! Stoke will have to go up next season! We paid Shelvy that so that is their gamble We were a Premier League team then! We paid it in the Champ too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 From that bollocks Q&A the Chronicle did a few hours ago. Q1: Are we getting any closer to our third signing? It depends what you mean by ‘closer’. In terms of talks continuing to bring in new players, Newcastle are certainly pursuing other deals to add to the signings of Martin Dubravka and Ki Sung-yueng. Rafa Benitez still wants a right-back, an attacking-midfielder, a striker and at least one winger this summer - and talks are understood to have taken place with clubs on players in each of those positions. As we have already reported, the Magpies have had an initial bid rejected for Alassane Plea of Nice, while they are in discussions to bring both Kenedy and Andros Townsend back to Tyneside. It does not appear at this stage that any deal is imminent - but there have been some positive noises behind the scenes suggesting Benitez could have another player through the door before Newcastle fly to the Republic of Ireland next week, though that is far from certain. The Ki deal was kept quiet until the last minute, so fingers crossed United have done likewise with another signing. Q2: Are Newcastle willing to pay Nice what they want for Alassane Pléa? We are miles apart in valuation. I doubt we’d go up that high when we’ve started bidding so low. This is the key question - and I’d be stretching the truth to suggest I know the exact answer. My understanding is that Newcastle’s initial bid is some way off the figure Nice are demanding for Plea, but contact has been maintained between the two clubs since. The Ligue 1 outfit have made it clear they want more than £25m for the 25-year-old, and are waiting to see whether Newcastle will get anywhere close to that valuation. Sources in France suggest Plea himself is keen to work with Benitez and has intimated to Nice that Newcastle are the club in England who he would most like to join - but there is rival Premier League interest, while clubs on the Continent are also testing the waters too. Newcastle will need to smash their transfer record in order to sign Plea - and it will probably need Aleksandar Mitrovic to be close to departing before they could commit to such a significant outlay. Just like fans, the sceptic in me looks at the previous examples of Ligue 1 strikers Newcastle failed to pay the money for, as well as Nicolai Jorgensen in January - and I’m not yet convinced this one will go the distance. Hopefully the club prove me wrong though. Q3: What’s happening with the apparent Kenedy talks? The Kenedy talks have been on going since April. As soon as Newcastle secured their Premier League status, Benitez made it clear to Chelsea that he was keen for the Brazilian to return to Tyneside - be it permanently, or via a season-long loan deal. However, the uncertainty over the head-coach situation has complicated matters, with Antonio Conte still in charge despite Maurizio Sarri having already been lined up as his successor. The Blues are receptive to selling Kenedy in order to raise funds for potential incomings at Stamford Bridge, but they want between £20m-£30m for the 22-year-old. As a result, Newcastle would prefer an initial loan deal with either an option or obligation to buy - and the current talks are largely focused around that. It is a complex situation and one which may not be resolved either way until later in the window. Kenedy would be willing to return to Tyneside, but his representatives also appear to be seeing if there is any interest from clubs in European competition too. Q4: Is it a case of sell first to add to the budget? To a certain extent this is the case, but it is not as black and white as that. There is already a budget for Benitez to spend, but it is believed to be between £40m-£50m. Any money he generates on top of that can be reinvested - but again that is complicated by the fact it depends whether the funds are paid in full up front or not. If Stoke City do bid £15m for Matt Ritchie - they are very interested in the winger, but no agreement is in place for him - then the likelihood is that would form a large part of the fee for a like-for-like replacement, be it Kenedy or Andros Townsend. Newcastle are due a lump-sum payment from the Premier League this month, which will seemingly form a large part of their summer budget, and so that can also be spent too. It is not a case that Benitez has to sell before he can buy, but he needs to bring in funds if he wants to do the business he desires and lure the players he is really targeting to Tyneside. Q5: Are United in talks for Townsend and Plea - what’s the latest? Yes Newcastle have been in talks for both Plea and Andros Townsend - and, with an offer having been launched and subsequently rejected for the former, that answers your second question. In terms of talks for Plea, contact has been maintained since Nice dismissed United’s initial bid and have made it clear they want more than £25m for the Frenchman. As of yet, Newcastle have not returned with another offer, but the communication lines remain open. Townsend-wise, Newcastle initially made contact with Crystal Palace at the start of June and were quoted a price in excess of £20m for the winger. Since then, Palace’s stance appears to have softened somewhat and the Eagles have made noises that they would be willing to sell the England winger. Informal talks have continued and, if Palace lower their demands, potentially a deal could be done for around £18m. At this stage though, no agreement is in place - and Townsend’s potential arrival may depend on whether Ritchie departs. Q6: What are we doing for full-back cover if Dummett and Yedlin get injured? It’s an important point - because, at the moment, Newcastle only have Paul Dummett, DeAndre Yedlin and Javier Manquillo who are out-and-out full-backs in their first-team squad at the moment. Jamie Sterry is on the books still too, but Benitez is looking to sell the youngster, while Isaac Hayden can cover in on the defensive flanks. Following the release of Jesus Gamez and Massadio Haidara, and with Chancel Mbemba certain to be sold this summer, Benitez needs significant reinforcements at full-back. He wants a right-back who he believes can challenge Yedlin for a first-team place, and would ideally also like to sign a versatile defender who can provide cover. Enquiries have been launched for a few players who fit the bill, but as of yet no full-back has been signed. Alongside a striker and an attacking-midfielder, I’d say right-back is the priority position for Newcastle to strengthen in Benitez’s eyes right now. Q7: Does Rafa want Plea as a striker or for behind the striker because plea in nice played as a winger or second striker? My understanding at this stage is that Benitez views Plea as a striker - and that’s why he is keen for a club-record bid to be launched for the Frenchman. Plea did player wider earlier in his career, and sometimes last season played to the left of or just off Mario Balotelli, but he can also be utilised as a central striker. But the fact Plea can operate in a variety of attacking positions also endears the 25-year-old to Benitez. The United manager likes versatile players because it means he has greater options to change systems and personnel depending on the opposition or the specific gameplan. Plea could be used as a forward in Benitez’s 4-2-3-1 formation, but equally he could occupy one of the three positions in the line behind too - and that is why he is so high up the Spaniard’s wanted list. Whether Newcastle will get close to matching Nice’s valuation for the winger after the Magpies’ first bid was rejected remains to be seen though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I mean, it’s quite obvious what closer means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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