Happinesstan Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 I know Bruce is shite in every way, but I think there might be a benefit to other clubs in loaning us their 21=23 year olds. Their fooball coaching is pretty much complete at that age and just need the opportunity to chisel out their identity, a coach who doesn't give a fuck, like Bruce, could be just what they need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Happinesstan said: I know Bruce is shite in every way, but I think there might be a benefit to other clubs in loaning us their 21=23 year olds. Their fooball coaching is pretty much complete at that age and just need the opportunity to chisel out their identity, a coach who doesn't give a fuck, like Bruce, could be just what they need. Did any of the the straws stick within your grasp? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 On 27/07/2021 at 02:05, Theregulars said: Did any of the the straws stick within your grasp? Is Willock attracting interest from other clubs who have seen him play regularly in the PL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Happinesstan said: Is Willock attracting interest from other clubs who have seen him play regularly in the PL? Your second post is a non-sequitur. Your point was that Bruce’s lack of aptitude / not caring is somehow beneficial to young players, which in my view is clutching at straws. Bruce is the worst manager in the division, and probably one of the worst in the top 2 divisions, so I don’t really back the view that this may be beneficial to a young player. If I was a young player, if I had other coaching options I’d not be opting for Steve Bruce on the basis that I could do whatever I wanted. That discussion point has nothing to do with other clubs’ interest in Willock or otherwise - it may be that Willock likes playing for Bruce, but I’d wager he just enjoyed playing games, which didn’t appear to be much of an option for him at Arsenal. Either way, Bruce is shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Theregulars said: Your second post is a non-sequitur. Your point was that Bruce’s lack of aptitude / not caring is somehow beneficial to young players, which in my view is clutching at straws. Bruce is the worst manager in the division, and probably one of the worst in the top 2 divisions, so I don’t really back the view that this may be beneficial to a young player. If I was a young player, if I had other coaching options I’d not be opting for Steve Bruce on the basis that I could do whatever I wanted. That discussion point has nothing to do with other clubs’ interest in Willock or otherwise - it may be that Willock likes playing for Bruce, but I’d wager he just enjoyed playing games, which didn’t appear to be much of an option for him at Arsenal. Either way, Bruce is shit. Wilock was a special case, self driven and skillful, he was able to manage himself in a way, that wouldn't work with most players who need guidance/tactical instructions. If Bruce did have to get involved he would undoubtedly undo a decent amount of coaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, jonbobson said: Do people actually believe Bruce has any say on transfers? ???? Not after he picked Cheesy and Hendo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Theregulars said: Your second post is a non-sequitur. Your point was that Bruce’s lack of aptitude / not caring is somehow beneficial to young players, which in my view is clutching at straws. Bruce is the worst manager in the division, and probably one of the worst in the top 2 divisions, so I don’t really back the view that this may be beneficial to a young player. If I was a young player, if I had other coaching options I’d not be opting for Steve Bruce on the basis that I could do whatever I wanted. That discussion point has nothing to do with other clubs’ interest in Willock or otherwise - it may be that Willock likes playing for Bruce, but I’d wager he just enjoyed playing games, which didn’t appear to be much of an option for him at Arsenal. Either way, Bruce is shit. Bruce's only instruction to Willock was to run around, make an impact and get in the box. That lack of any instruction afforded him the freedom to put himself in the headlines. S'all I'm saying. If you disagree I think you're a bit of a muppet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Prophet Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 At least we're monitoring again. Good stuff... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, jonbobson said: Do people actually believe Bruce has any say on transfers? ???? He was the one who signed Krafth, so yeah he probably has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 yeah lets rely on Brewcy and Steve "40mJowlinton" Nickson, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Targeting. Our accuracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 On 26/07/2021 at 19:00, Tomato Deuce said: @brummie could you give us the skinny on Tuanzebe? I like him. We've been linked with signing him, which I am not massively excited about, but that's because we need to be signing players elsewhere. The fans loved him. He came here on loan and absolutely bought into it. He's got heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 On 26/07/2021 at 14:45, Yorkie said: Can recall @brummie saying that Barkley was terrible for Villa last season? Barkley is infuriating. There were performances like Arsenal away where him and Grealish basically just took them to pieces, they were both brilliant. But for every performance like that, there were 9 unarsed, petulant, nothing performances. It's a shame, he looked like an inspired signing for a short period of time, but you'd genuinely struggle to find a single Villa fan who would suggest we should have kept hold of him after last season. Not the worst player we've loaned from Chelsea in recent years, but when you consider the worst was Danny Drinkwater - genuinely, in 50 years watching the club, the worst player I've ever seen play for us in the top flight - it puts it in context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Drinkwater is an absolute disgrace. Every time it was like someone had gone into one of the pubs around the ground three hours before kick off and held a lottery whereby the most shitfaced punter by half an hour before kick off would get to play for us. One of my mates said it was like watching some fan who'd come in full kit, with his boots, just in case we needed an extra body (as per every schoolboy football fan's dream), only to find the dream came true and he got his chance. Except we were paying him 100k a week. And it happened every week. shudder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Hate Villa but love @brummie. Great posts as always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 We start our first game of the new PL season 2 weeks on Sunday . We currently have signed NO new players , we haven’t freshened it up, we’ve done nothing , weakened the squad . Enjoy . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 34 minutes ago, GWN said: We start our first game of the new PL season 2 weeks on Sunday . We currently have signed NO new players , we haven’t freshened it up, we’ve done nothing , weakened the squad . Enjoy . Lower those expectations sunshine. Main aim is to get the players fit, which is next to impossible given our circumstances. The priority over the first ten games is the accumulation of minutes, then we'll worry about the accumulation of points. If we add more players in at this stage the accumulation of minutes for the entire squad will be made much much harder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 39 minutes ago, GWN said: We start our first game of the new PL season 2 weeks on Sunday . We currently have signed NO new players , we haven’t freshened it up, we’ve done nothing , weakened the squad . Enjoy . Why handicap ourselves by trying to improve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, GWN said: We start our first game of the new PL season 2 weeks on Sunday . We currently have signed NO new players , we haven’t freshened it up, we’ve done nothing , weakened the squad . Enjoy . I can't wait. Looking forward to watching it all fail miserably under Bruce. I will delight in it massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Shearergol said: Lower those expectations sunshine. Main aim is to get the players fit, which is next to impossible given our circumstances. The priority over the first ten games is the accumulation of minutes, then we'll worry about the accumulation of points. If we add more players in at this stage the accumulation of minutes for the entire squad will be made much much harder. expectations are very lowered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 How much of a joke is it, btw, that we've not got sights on another striker? After Wilson - who will get injured - there's one and a half senior strikers in the squad, with a total of 11 goals between them in the last two full seasons. For all Carroll was completely finished, he still gave relief to the actual strikers on 43 occasions across those two seasons (almost entirely from the bench, obviously). That's a fairly important resource when you consider fitness. I mean literally just go and get anyone. Only got a few hundred grand to spend? Fine, whatever! You could take a punt on basically anyone in the top three divisions and they'd plug the gap left by Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 We probably need a couple of fullbacks, two CMs and two strikers to have a competent PL squad. It’s mad that the season starts in 2 weeks Definitely haven’t ever felt so removed from it or paid less attention to what’s coming up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Lazarus said: Why handicap ourselves by trying to improve? And all the lovely money we're saving for the winter window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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