NG32 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Need to clear the sludge from our squad. Colback, Lazaar, Manquillo, Saivet and potentially Mitro and Mbemba, not that those two are sludge. Aye, I think Gayle might be heading out as well. Tho he isn;t sludge either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Premier League rules say any club with a wage bill over £81m is only allowed to increase it by £7m in 18/19. What's this wage bill thing like, do the clubs with a wage bill far exceeding £81m have to decrease theirs or is it just a pointless rule that will further separate the middle of the league from the top? EDIT: Apparently it's not a new rule. Never heard of it before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Reckon we can fill the bore hole with around £45m? Outgoings that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I wonder how much the bore hole has saved us over the years?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 That monitoring bunker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 When West Ham have just dropped £22m on a centre-half, and we're scrabbling around thinking about maybe monitoring a player, you know we're fucked. If we sign nobody, I think we'll do amazingly well to finish 17th. Let's not forget that loads of teams were absolutely shite last season, which contributed to us finishing tenth (with the lowest points total in premier league history for a team finishing tenth). Those teams will strengthen, Wolves may have the strongest promoted squad for a long time, and we'll be hoping that lightning strikes twice and we somehow avoid a relegation fight. Dinna about fucked like. Have people just completely forgot how good we were since January like? Unbelievable. West Ham buying a £22m centre back doesn't make them automatically better than us, that's not how how football works. We were far superior to them last season and still have the same squad minus Kenedy. I think the off-season has made people forget just how good a tune Rafa gets out of our group of players, and how good he is at having us win the little tactical battles that go a long way in such a tight league. I think it's a bit ridiculous to predict relegation for us on the evidence of last season tbh, we have one of the best managers in the league, man. The pessimism in here whilst partially understandable given our transfer history, is going way over the top at the moment imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Premier League rules say any club with a wage bill over £81m is only allowed to increase it by £7m in 18/19. What's this wage bill thing like, do the clubs with a wage bill far exceeding £81m have to decrease theirs or is it just a pointless rule that will further separate the middle of the league from the top? EDIT: Apparently it's not a new rule. Never heard of it before. Not sure the PL ruling has much merit in this instance, as surely our revenue has increased dramatically since "the last contract year" along with "player trading profit" being solid for the past 3 years, and either/both could be used as the rationale for a greater wage bill increase than £7m this summer? The ruling seems to be a way to prevent Man City-esque spending, rather than stopping any club from increasing their wage bill significantly via more "legitimate" profit/loss means. Either way, Sels, Sterry, Mbemba, Lazaar, Colback, Saivet, Aarons and Mitrovic should be on their way, while Gamez, Haidara and a bunch of the U23's have already departed. Would be delighted to see Manquillo added to this list, but unlike most of the rest he'd need replacing in the squad. Can't see it as a real issue, but it'd be another cracking excuse for Ashley not to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I agree on many points, at the same time we were pretty lucky last season when it comes to injuries. (Replying to IC) We also need to show a bit of ambition at least, the current players wont be as motivated as last season if we do nada. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Reckon we can fill the bore hole with around £45m? Outgoings that is. Doubt it. Mitro will fetch us between £18m-£25m, about £8m for Mbemba and what's looking like around £12m for Merino going off reports despite that we should ask for more or just flat out not sell. We'll get next to nowt for the other players we need rid of. Though getting rid of the likes of Colback et al will free up decent wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Reckon we can fill the bore hole with around £45m? Outgoings that is. Doubt it. Mitro will fetch us between £18m-£25m, about £8m for Mbemba and what's looking like around £12m for Merino going off reports despite that we should ask for more or just flat out not sell. We'll get next to nowt for the other players we need rid of. So, probably close to 45m then, if lucky. Well, probably doesn't matter... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Reckon we can fill the bore hole with around £45m? Outgoings that is. Doubt it. Mitro will fetch us between £18m-£25m, about £8m for Mbemba and what's looking like around £12m for Merino going off reports despite that we should ask for more or just flat out not sell. We'll get next to nowt for the other players we need rid of. So, probably close to 45m then, if lucky. Well, probably doesn't matter... I've lost interest while the World Cup has been on tbh. Will be able to start fewmin about everything again after it's finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 https://twitter.com/ManuLonjon/status/1009488740711092224 We've also been scouting Imbula apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 a race you say? on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 At least she's got her shoes on.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Hi-Tec no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 a race you say? on it That's definitely us in a race to sign someone like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Not to burst anyone's bubble but she's ahead of those running in the opposite direction. We're the non runners you can see in her wake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Why are we constantly being rumored to be after centre backs and central midfielders? It's a bit worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Why are we constantly being rumored to be after centre backs and central midfielders? It's a bit worrying. Because they have no idea what they're talking about (the papers). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Why are we constantly being rumored to be after centre backs and central midfielders? It's a bit worrying. Mbemba is leaving, we're going to be down to 3 CBs. Looks like Merino is on his way for whatever reason, we're going to be down to 3 CMs as well (not including Saivet & Colback). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Reckon we can fill the bore hole with around £45m? Outgoings that is. Doubt it. Mitro will fetch us between £18m-£25m, about £8m for Mbemba and what's looking like around £12m for Merino going off reports despite that we should ask for more or just flat out not sell. We'll get next to nowt for the other players we need rid of. Though getting rid of the likes of Colback et al will free up decent wages. You've listed the fees in GBP when it's EUROs we've seen quoted for most of those players. €8m for Mbemba and €12m for Merino. £15m+ for Mitro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Race? What kind of monitoring speed is that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I agree on many points, at the same time we were pretty lucky last season when it comes to injuries. (Replying to IC) We also need to show a bit of ambition at least, the current players wont be as motivated as last season if we do nada. Yeah fair point, we were quite lucky with injuries to big players. Although maybe we're just fitter than years gone by because of proper coaching. I don't know. Either way we don't need to start pissing ourselves at every West Ham/Southampton rumoured signing just yet, we're in decent shape! We have much to be envied by the other teams imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 When West Ham have just dropped £22m on a centre-half, and we're scrabbling around thinking about maybe monitoring a player, you know we're fucked. If we sign nobody, I think we'll do amazingly well to finish 17th. Let's not forget that loads of teams were absolutely shite last season, which contributed to us finishing tenth (with the lowest points total in premier league history for a team finishing tenth). Those teams will strengthen, Wolves may have the strongest promoted squad for a long time, and we'll be hoping that lightning strikes twice and we somehow avoid a relegation fight. Dinna about fucked like. Have people just completely forgot how good we were since January like? Unbelievable. West Ham buying a £22m centre back doesn't make them automatically better than us, that's not how how football works. We were far superior to them last season and still have the same squad minus Kenedy. I think the off-season has made people forget just how good a tune Rafa gets out of our group of players, and how good he is at having us win the little tactical battles that go a long way in such a tight league. I think it's a bit ridiculous to predict relegation for us on the evidence of last season tbh, we have one of the best managers in the league, man. The pessimism in here whilst partially understandable given our transfer history, is going way over the top at the moment imo. I didn't say we'll get relegated, I'm merely stating we played better than the sum of our parts whilst a large proportion of the league underperformed last season. We still have a broadly championship side whilst those around us are strengthening and are showing some ambition. Yes we did well in the second half of the season, and Rafa is fucking amazing, but the squad needs some quality desperately just to stand still. We're also relying on some players who have been extremely inconsistent over the duration of their careers - Shelvey, Yedlin, Diame, Ritchie, Perez etc. so history tells us that it may be remiss to expect them to maintain their post-xmas form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelveys Hair Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Im pretty sure Justin Barnes came in just after the McClaren spending spree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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