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With Tino looking rather poor lately it would be a weird timing to sell his backup. But might not be a bad idea if we can squeze out a few extra millions because of his name. Personally think he is done at a top level.

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I think he’s completely checked out mentally, which is unacceptable and unprofessional.  Real shame because I think he’s been the best signing of the PIF era, really set the tone.  Shame how it’s ending here for him 

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I thought we looked much better when he came on and we had some semblance of control and passing ability moving forward. Assuming he gave the foul away for the free kick and also looked partly to blame for Muniz getting so free. 
 

Would be all for it, TBH. As it does look like his legs have gone/he can’t be arsed defensively.  
 

But Tino has been up and down all season. Mainly down of late and whilst I appreciate we need to sell players for PSR purposes. Shifting most of our back ups in one window with no replacements seems a bit of a risk. 

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9 hours ago, Ronson333 said:

Sell everyone

Agreed. Then at least this time next year we won't have the same old faces whinging about us keeping onto players (who cares if they're players who can still do a job for us) Just get rid and leave us with the bare 11 again

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In all honesty, he was only good for us for 1 year. He got injured as soon as he arrived, the 1st full season where we finished 4th he was great. The 2nd season, with 3 games in a week, it was too much for him, he could only put in 1 good performance out of those 3 games, and we saw the mistakes and sloppiness that he made.

It could be argued that he hasn’t made an impact at all this season.

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26 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

If there’s a deal to be done I would reluctantly do it, we won’t get another chance of a money deal for him otherwise. Howe will massively disagree though.

We really need to move on though. The likes of Ritchie, Dummett being held by the club long past their sell by date is just a warning of how those players being held on to will damage us.

We still have the likes of Hayden on our books.

I honestly think that come the summer, we maybe best off just having everyone pre-takeover up for sale, and just concentrate on squad players.

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2 hours ago, Andy84 said:

I think he’s completely checked out mentally, which is unacceptable and unprofessional.  Real shame because I think he’s been the best signing of the PIF era, really set the tone.  Shame how it’s ending here for him 


Don’t see that at all on a matchday tbh. He wouldn’t be near the squad if that was the case and he definitely wouldn’t be taking the armband off Bruno.

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7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

May as well sell 

 

 

This where we’ve got to be ruthless. Krafth will be a fine back up until the summer.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Rich said:


Don’t see that at all on a matchday tbh. He wouldn’t be near the squad if that was the case and he definitely wouldn’t be taking the armband off Bruno.


Aye. He’s a great actor if he’s not arsed. As he is still coaching from the sidelines and then when he is on the pitch. He carries on with his leadership role. 
 

I do think his legs have gone, mind. Which means he’s only going to be good in certain games and situations. 

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1 hour ago, Rich said:


Don’t see that at all on a matchday tbh. He wouldn’t be near the squad if that was the case and he definitely wouldn’t be taking the armband off Bruno.

 

:thup: God forbid a 34 year old just be winding down. Despite all the bollocks spouted about his attitude I don't think there's been a single genuine bit of evidence, has there?

 

He's clearly still a big voice in the team, even from the sidelines. I've caught him speaking to players as he's been warming up on the sideline mid-match. That doesn't scream checked out. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Rich said:


Don’t see that at all on a matchday tbh. He wouldn’t be near the squad if that was the case and he definitely wouldn’t be taking the armband off Bruno.

 

He was helping Tino out from the touchline yesterday in the first half, as he's done many times. Don't see evidence he's checked out at all.

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I don't think he's checked out. He may want a move, he may not, but whatever he's continuing to be vocal around the pitch and try his best when brought on. He's just not as fast anymore, that's just life though. 

 

I'd reluctantly take the money, then if he wants to we can bring him back as a coach once he's done playing. He seems to have a lot to offer even when not on the pitch.

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Daft this, I could understand selling players for a rebuild if our season was over, we have a small squad anyway but we can't rely on our current first team for the rest of the season, we need back up.

 

Howe is been left in the clarts here

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41 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said:

 

He was helping Tino out from the touchline yesterday in the first half, as he's done many times. Don't see evidence he's checked out at all.

 

Such a lazy comment to say someone's checked out etc.   if he had, then Howe would not be selecting him in the squad etc.

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