TheBrownBottle Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 5 hours ago, Mazzy said: It's much more unusual though to see a left footer at LCB. Perhaps only because left footers are a rarer commodity. Either way I'd rather see Kelly at RCB for Spurs. That's alot of pressure on Sven otherwise. For me, my only concern would be Botman being rushed back before he’s ready. Kelly makes me nervous, mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 10 hours ago, Nucasol said: Needs to be. The main men will have played Villa, Man Utd, Spurs and Arsenal in a 13 day run and then have Wolves and Bournemouth 3 and 6 days after Bromley. That one week breathing space in the middle is key. Would go: Vlach Krafth Schar (off a two game ban) Kelly (Botman gets 30 mins) Targett Miley Longstaff Willock Barnes Osula Almiron Going for the 0-0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 (edited) Surely Botman is ready. Kelly is at decent a best player with the potential to be solidly mediocre but he’ll be all over the shop against Spurs. Edited December 31, 2024 by Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 Would be shocked, shocked I tell you if Botman gets any more than 10 minutes against Spurs, and only then if we're defending a comfortable lead. You don't just drop into a team after an injury like that, surely. Will be eased in with sub appearances over the next month or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 Aye he shouldn't be anywhere near this game, we need him for the remainder of the season. Even if we lose we're still in a strong position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 I think we'll see him start either this or the Arsenal game, and Kelly with start both the other game and Bromley. Both side are in a similar place, as we'll both be missing at least 3 parts of what would be a our 1st choice back 5s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 (edited) I'm looking forward to remembering what a top class player this guy is too. Easy to forget he's had about 5 bad games in his time here, and I don't remember any of em. Edited December 31, 2024 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 42 minutes ago, M1tche said: I think we'll see him start either this or the Arsenal game, and Kelly with start both the other game and Bromley. Both side are in a similar place, as we'll both be missing at least 3 parts of what would be a our 1st choice back 5s What? No way he starts against Spurs, surely? Been out best part of a year and we’re gonna chuck him in from the off away from home against a big club?! Similar comments for Arsenal. I think he starts against Bromley and then builds from there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 19 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: What? No way he starts against Spurs, surely? Been out best part of a year and we’re gonna chuck him in from the off away from home against a big club?! Similar comments for Arsenal. I think he starts against Bromley and then builds from there. He's already been building up, he's back in full training, and has been for a whole, he's played under 23s, and has also has been playing 11 vs 11s against quite likely a strong team in training matches. He was meant to be back on the bench for the last few games, but missed out due to illness. If Bunce deems him good to go, and Eddie deems him the best option he'll start, my bet is the Arsenal game, as that's our best chance of a trophy. Bromley might be the easiest game, but he's more likely to take a random hit in that than any of the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I'd start him injury won't be an issue now if he can start for u23s. My main worry is Burn being an option at leftback again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 44 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: I'd start him injury won't be an issue now if he can start for u23s. My main worry is Burn being an option at leftback again. Hall surely has cemented that role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 15 minutes ago, duo said: Hall surely has cemented that role And Targett's back up too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Cardigan Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 hours ago, Ronaldo said: Surely Botman is ready. Kelly is at decent a best player with the potential to be solidly mediocre but he’ll be all over the shop against Spurs. Even as poster renowned for “unusual” takes over the years this is right up there. No. He’ll be nowhere near ready to start a premier league game after 9 months out. Obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 hours ago, relámpago blanco said: I'd start him injury won't be an issue now if he can start for u23s. My main worry is Burn being an option at leftback again. Hall is too good at LB now. He's not just a stop gap anymore. His stats are through the roof. Burn will be rested now and again, which he no doubt needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 8 hours ago, M1tche said: He's already been building up, he's back in full training, and has been for a whole, he's played under 23s, and has also has been playing 11 vs 11s against quite likely a strong team in training matches. He was meant to be back on the bench for the last few games, but missed out due to illness. If Bunce deems him good to go, and Eddie deems him the best option he'll start, my bet is the Arsenal game, as that's our best chance of a trophy. Bromley might be the easiest game, but he's more likely to take a random hit in that than any of the others. Again. He has had a year out with an ACL injury and has played 60 minutes of competitive’ish football for the reserves. It takes time to build back up. Being fit and match fit are two different things entirely. I’d be shocked if he started either and would imagine he’d look miles off it. Whole new level from what he has done so far. Bromley seems like the perfect game to come back into the starting XI. Random hits or not. I think it’s something like 70-80% of ACL’s are non-contact injuries, anyway. Edited January 1 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Physically he’s probably ready, it’s getting switched back on mentally. Against Arsenal a couple of mistakes could be game over and it will be a high intensity game, Bromley you’d expect to be more generous opponents and the game to be a slower pace Wouldn’t be a surprise to see him on the bench for the Spurs and Arsenal games, so he’s back in the match day routine and also as there’s barely enough players to fill the bench so it’s not like someone else misses out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 hours ago, Lush Vlad said: Again. He has had a year out with an ACL injury and has played 60 minutes of competitive’ish football for the reserves. It takes time to build back up. Being fit and match fit are two different things entirely. I’d be shocked if he started either and would imagine he’d look miles off it. Whole new level from what he has done so far. Bromley seems like the perfect game to come back into the starting XI. Random hits or not. I think it’s something like 70-80% of ACL’s are non-contact injuries, anyway. There is no perfect game to come back from an ACL. When you're ready, you're ready. Whether that's 45 mins, 60 mins, 75 mins whatever. You up the Minutes, not the level of opposition. The under 23s and training matches were the test for strength of the knee, now its time to play serious football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 44 minutes ago, M1tche said: There is no perfect game to come back from an ACL. When you're ready, you're ready. Whether that's 45 mins, 60 mins, 75 mins whatever. You up the Minutes, not the level of opposition. The under 23s and training matches were the test for strength of the knee, now its time to play serious football. Isn't it the mental aspects for the player though? Like their knee may be all good as per the physio, but playing against Spurs away will require him to push himself way harder than a u23 game etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 It'll be a hard choice dropping Burn the way he's performing this season,but Sven will be eased back in, Eddie Howe fashion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, M1tche said: There is no perfect game to come back from an ACL. When you're ready, you're ready. Whether that's 45 mins, 60 mins, 75 mins whatever. You up the Minutes, not the level of opposition. The under 23s and training matches were the test for strength of the knee, now its time to play serious football. Tyrone Mings and VVD are just two centre backs recently that can be used as cautionary tales coming back from ACL’s. So Botman is going to go from 60 mins for the reserves and not even being in a matchday squad for nearly a year. To starting away at Spurs or Arsenal? What absolute madness. Won’t be up to speed or match sharp. Mentally it is tough and there are always slight concerns in the front and back of your mind. I’ve come back from 4 knee ops in the same knee. I had a great physio and sought after surgeon, fortunate enough to get specialist rehab. It all still doesn’t prepare you to just get chucked back in at that pace. This is playing about 10 leagues lower than Botman and all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) Yeah not a chance he starts and nor should there be. Not unless we wanted to undo a lot of the good work he's done to get back. Needs to be eased back over the next 6 weeks or so. Even then he's probably going to be back up to Burn until he's truly back to full sharpness and playing like he used to. Edited January 1 by alexf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 He will slowly work his way back in to the team. He has to displace Burn which is a massive ask as BDB has been playing out of his skin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 9 hours ago, Crimson Cardigan said: Even as poster renowned for “unusual” takes over the years this is right up there. No. He’ll be nowhere near ready to start a premier league game after 9 months out. Obviously. When will he be ready then? After a 20 minute cameo back end of Spurs game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hanshithispantz Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Lloyd Kelly hasn't had any minutes since November, why would he be any more match fit than Botman? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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