black_n_white Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: Think it's also why I'm still keen on Guehi for RCB. It's high risk so having someone like Guehi who's got the recovery pace on the occasions he doesn't get there first is so important I’m also hoping we can sign Guehi in the summer, would massively improve the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 he’s nowhere near as proactive as Burn has been in the last 6 months or so. It’s one of the main reasons why the gap between defence and midfield isn’t being as easily exploited now. Burn is winning almost twice as many aerial challenges as Botman (last season) per 90, and competing in around 50% more ground duels too. There’s been a notable difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 12 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Think it's also why I'm still keen on Guehi for RCB. It's high risk so having someone like Guehi who's got the recovery pace on the occasions he doesn't get there first is so important I’m keen on a fast RCB. Just not sure Guehi fits the bill. Would hope for quicker personally and more dominance in the air. Even a bit more aggressive. Not saying that’s an easy combination to find mind at a reasonable price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) Botman was struggling with injuries last season and Burn is currently in the form of his life. But the main reason for the gap between midfield and defence being better is Tonali, simple as that. Howe has always wanted his defenders to press high. Botman was the perfect example of that in 22/23. In fact it was noticeable how much we missed that whenever Burn used to fill in for him. Thankfully Burn has begun to get better at that aspect and also it helps prevent his lack of pace being exposed by trying to win the ball high rather than dropping deep. Edited April 15 by alexf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, NSG said: Wonder if he makes the bench for the Ipswich game. Doubt it, would think they'd have a professional company to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 34 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Why would you demotivate one of your best players? If he’s genuinely fit, there’s not a good reason to not get him involved in playing in some capacity. It’s good for him physically. This isn’t a video game. If he’s been busting a gut through rehab to get fit. Let him play. He shouldn’t be overloaded obviously and it should be taken carefully. Because qualifying for CL is that important. If he is a professional Botman will understand that and not let it demotivate him. There is not enough games left to justify letting him get up to speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Just now, Displayname said: Because qualifying for CL is that important. If he is a professional Botman will understand that and not let it demotivate him. There is not enough games left to justify letting him get up to speed. Disagree, looked plenty up to speed when he came back in after a much longer lay-off. He was fantastic both legs of the semi against Arsenal. He's easily one of our best players, if he's fit then he should play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Botman is 100% the better defender out of the two. Drip feed him minutes and maybe a couple of 60 min run outs nearer end of season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 4 minutes ago, Theregulars said: Disagree, looked plenty up to speed when he came back in after a much longer lay-off. He was fantastic both legs of the semi against Arsenal. He's easily one of our best players, if he's fit then he should play. I remember him having a few dodgy moments when he first came back, didn’t take long for him to catch up though, I agree with that. Our CB pairing has been working out pretty well lately so I just don’t see the point of taking the chance unless we already have the game in the bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, Displayname said: I remember him having a few dodgy moments when he first came back, didn’t take long for him to catch up though, I agree with that. Our CB pairing has been working out pretty well lately so I just don’t see the point of taking the chance unless we already have the game in the bag. Nice problem to have! certainly you’d not drop either of Schär or Burn right now on form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Theregulars said: Nice problem to have! certainly you’d not drop either of Schär or Burn right now on form. I wouldn’t drop them and I wouldn’t sub them out either in a game that was still in play. Don’t get me wrong, having Botman back is fantastic news. But for me that’s mostly because we would have been fucked if Schär or Burn got injured. *Might consider a 5 man defence to see out a game though. Edited April 15 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 9 hours ago, buzza said: Botman is 100% the better defender out of the two. Drip feed him minutes and maybe a couple of 60 min run outs nearer end of season Forget his defensive work, he is also an excellent passer of the ball and we have missed him feeding the through ball to our midfielders. Just prey that he has a period where he is injury free as he's still at a good age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t00nt00n313 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I bet some of the people who are saying we shouldn't play him and should keep burn/schar on will be changing their tune really quickly if we lose a couple or our next games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ExiledGeordie Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Always makes me laugh when people suddenly become medical experts on players when they haven’t got a clue what’s actually going on - only the player and medical team will know exact details. He’s had his ACL surgery which by all accounts has gone very well. The second op was a knee scope to remove a loose body, it’s fairly easy to recover from as it’s not structural. If he’s fit to return for Ipswich then great 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Just in time. If there's any position on the pitch we're lacking back up it's CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Be great to have him back as an option. Bench getting stronger too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I predict bench v Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Tindall needs to take some more lessons from Eddie. Don’t let people know when players are coming back. Should have said he’s still out for a month and then, abracadabra, he’s back next game instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 9 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: Tindall needs to take some more lessons from Eddie. Don’t let people know when players are coming back. Should have said he’s still out for a month and then, abracadabra, he’s back next game instead. Seen a clip of him instantly going ballistic when we score against Palace then, obviously and quickly, reminding himself of his new status. Turns round, quick clap, hands in pockets 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 With bim back Our spine looks ridiculously strong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 38 minutes ago, The Prophet said: With bim back Our spine looks ridiculously strong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Love to see this guy back for Ipswich. Get some pace back in central defence. Not saying anyone should be dropped because of todays result. Off the bench when we're hopefully comfortably ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Pace? You’re not getting that from Botman, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Just now, Ronaldo said: Pace? You’re not getting that from Botman, like. He’s does read the game a lot better than most defenders and has the habit of being the right place at the right time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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