nufc4eva Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Think that's main point, we conceded 1 goal but should have tried to get a 2nd after ASM scored, we were pathetic attacking, slow as fuck and disjointed. We need a centre midfield for starters, a centre half or 2 and some training on creating chances because we couldn't hit the target or open them up at all, still relying on magic from ASM to get something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, nufc4eva said: Think that's main point, we conceded 1 goal but should have tried to get a 2nd after ASM scored, we were pathetic attacking, slow as fuck and disjointed. We need a centre midfield for starters, a centre half or 2 and some training on creating chances because we couldn't hit the target or open them up at all, still relying on magic from ASM to get something Absolutely this, it’s like watching a Steve Bruce team the only difference being the team now sits 15 yards further up the pitch under Howe, but plays exactly the same way Edited January 16, 2022 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Aye that's fair enough just think it's a bit harsh to blame Lascelles for that goal. It's about as perfect a 1-2 then whipped ball in as you'll see. Prime Chiellini would have been wrongfooted by that, man Edited January 16, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 There's a fair chance we go down this season as too much to unpick and a load of shit players, will need to rebuild and come back stronger which I think we will. I would be given Howe this season and into next no matter what league we are in. The squad is in a shocking state in terms of talent and capability. It's hard to take but the damage was done long before Howe took over and another relegation was always on the cards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Schar was in the position he had been in all game(the left footed CB position) Captain catastrophe was once again in no man’s land like so many games this season which has cost us so many points see for yourself, I don’t see him challenging 2 players considering 1 of them is on the floor I think you've been canny with your choice of shot. Firstly I think Lascelles is very very limited, I think Schar is an intelligent and talented footballer, but a limited defender who lacks heart and positional sense as an out and out defender - he's a luxury and needs to play in a three. However, Lascelles was marking his man, he then got bumped, his guy feel to the floor and the goalscorer had a run on him as Trippier let him through. I'm not sure what Lascelles could have done in this situation. Yes he's shite but let's get the facts right. Schar was way out of position, he got sucked in towards Dummet. Tripper made little attempt to stop, block or jump the striker and Lascelles tried to jump, but having made contact with his man, he had no momentum to get the height. Communication was piss poor around but it was not one mans fault. Edited January 16, 2022 by Oregon_Geordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, TRon said: At least Lascelles tried to stop that goal yesterday. From the Peter Shilton school of jumping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 This forums really heated up in the past 24 hours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, nufc4eva said: Think that's main point, we conceded 1 goal but should have tried to get a 2nd after ASM scored, we were pathetic attacking, slow as fuck and disjointed. We need a centre midfield for starters, a centre half or 2 and some training on creating chances because we couldn't hit the target or open them up at all, still relying on magic from ASM to get something Howe was criticising his players for sitting back on a goal lead, he actually said that we should have gone for the killer second which I agree with. The players are still stuck in Bruce mode which is a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, TRon said: Howe was criticising his players for sitting back on a goal lead, he actually said that we should have gone for the killer second which I agree with. The players are still stuck in Bruce mode which is a problem. Which is where a few more signings still give us a chance at transforming the side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Oregon_Geordie said: I think you've been canny with your choice of shot. Firstly I think Lascelles is very very limited, I think Schar is an intelligent and talented footballer, but a limited defender who lacks heart and positional sense as an out and out defender - he's a luxury and needs to play in a three. However, Lascelles was marking his man, he then got bumped, his guy feel to the floor and the goalscorer had a run on him as Trippier let him through. I'm not sure what Lascelles could have done in this situation. Yes he's shite but let's get the facts right. Schar was way out of position, he got sucked in towards Dummet. Tripper made little attempt to stop, block or jump the striker and Lascelles tried to jump, but having made contact with his man, he had no momentum to get the height. Communication was piss poor around but it was not one mans fault. Yeah, that's what I was saying. If Lascelles gets replaced tomorrow I'll be as happy as most here, but I don't see why he should take the blame for others on that goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Oregon_Geordie said: I think you've been canny with your choice of shot. Firstly I think Lascelles is very very limited, I think Schar is an intelligent and talented footballer, but a limited defender who lacks heart and positional sense as an out and out defender - he's a luxury and needs to play in a three. However, Lascelles was marking his man, he then got bumped, his guy feel to the floor and the goalscorer had a run on him as Trippier let him through. I'm not sure what Lascelles could have done in this situation. Yes he's shite but let's get the facts right. Schar was way out of position, he got sucked in towards Dummet. Tripper made little attempt to stop, block or jump the striker and Lascelles tried to jump, but having made contact with his man, he had no momentum to get the height. Communication was piss poor around but it was not one mans fault. I disagree that schar was out of position, it’s the central defenders job on the side that the play is coming from to go toward the near post to cut out a low ball to the near post so you don’t get a low ball going across no man’s land and that’s where schar was doing, yes trippier let the guy get a run at the ball and should have blocked him, but Captain catastrophe didn’t try to attack the ball at any time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 The players couldn't push forward because they don't have the legs. It's no surprise we concede so many late goals when so many players can't do a full 90 minutes. We either drop deep or get done on the counter. Watford looked clueless for much of the game but suddenly came to life because they were easily winning chases and second balls and easily beating our players for pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: TBH I sick of hearing who were in for, all I want to see is we have agreed a fee, we could be in for Kante and virgil van dijk it means fuck all if we can’t agree a fee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, nufcnick said: TBH I sick of hearing who were in for, all I want to see is we have agreed a fee, we could be in for Kante and virgil van dijk it means fuck all if we can’t agree a fee Probably best off not coming in this thread then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Probably best off not coming in this thread then ? ???aye good point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 8 hours ago, Thumbheed said: Shelvey is not playing bad to be fair but a combative DM who plays his role would make a big difference to our team. He's always there or there abouts when defending that area, and does apply pressure quite well but doesn't have the skillset to dispossess like a true DM can. A CD, followed by a DM should be our absolute priorities, but a RW should be in the mix too to give us a bit of attacking balance. Shelvey is absolute garbage, man. All of our CMs are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Extremely disappointed to log on here for the first time today to find no new threads on the back of an obscure rumour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 He's not. He's got a lot of things right and doesn't just jump on stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Thiago said: He's not. He's got a lot of things right and doesn't just jump on stuff. Can you show me one thing he’s got right (that wasn’t already reported elsewhere)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 He got this a good 20-25 minutes before any mention from the mainstream press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I'm not going to fault him for not knowing Burnsie is full of shit. Also - and I mean this as no disrespect - what benefit would it serve him to show you match tickets etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: he deleted his other Charnley tweet btw What's the Charnley reference regarding? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Minhosa said: What's the Charnley reference regarding? Going to stoke I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Fair. I will say, I've met recruitment scouts for independent companies that are usually a bit loose lipped. I'll certainly watch his stuff with a closer eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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