BonesJones Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Also back on topic, and imagining this is all Ekitikes agents fault. I still want him, he looks like a seriously smart player imo. For such a young age he has a swagger about his play that can be turned into something special. Little bit more mass on him and I can't see why he wouldn't do a job for us. I don't get the Henry or Mbappe comparisons though, they had/have raw pace. I feel he's a risk worth taking, even if it ends up with him moving on a few years down the line for a big fee, that's a win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, BonesJones said: Also back on topic, and imagining this is all Ekitikes agents fault. I still want him, he looks like a seriously smart player imo. For such a young age he has a swagger about his play that can be turned into something special. Little bit more mass on him and I can't see why he wouldn't do a job for us. I don't get the Henry or Mbappe comparisons though, they had/have raw pace. I feel he's a risk worth taking, even if it ends up with him moving on a few years down the line for a big fee, that's a win. Got to be indicative of someone’s character if they’re willing to essentially work with/employ a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Got to be indicative of someone’s character if they’re willing to essentially work with/employ a cunt. Yeh it's not looking great can't lie, just feel it's a shame hence I started with imagining it's all his agent fault. He's a young kid though that easily could've been fooled by this shady agent, from what agents have been known to be like before. Basically me hoping he's actually an angel and will get rid of said agent, sort his shit out and make the move. There's a reason Howe and co have him as the no.1 target, and I want that to come through for them and the club. With the way Howe has spoken regarding players attitude from day one, I'd imagine they've done background research or whatever it is they do so wouldn't have gone near him if it didn't look good. Let's see. Plenty of other quality young players out there, and plenty of them would come here in a heartbeat. Once we get to the European competitions and we inevitably play against some great players, they will experience our crowd/atmosphere and love for the players. Will become so much easier to attract them to the club, so many boring clubs with shit fans they will be amazed. Edited June 30, 2022 by BonesJones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Toon No9 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: So it's on again, eh??♂️ On, off... on, off... on, off.....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Toon No9 said: So it's on again, eh??♂️ On, off... on, off... on, off.....? Is still off as far as I can see, only this source is reporting it and if Hugo or his agent wants to push this through all of a sudden- are these the first reporters they’ll tell? Sounds like garbage to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, RodneyCisse said: Got to be indicative of someone’s character if they’re willing to essentially work with/employ a cunt. It's easy to make such mistakes at his age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 5 hours ago, BonesJones said: Sounds weird but I always think someone else in his place would've completely changed what happened in every match, with no guarantee of the points we got. Like minor things such as he could've made a run that distracted an opposing player and then we scored, another player might have run in a slightly different angle and it didn't impact the game. Maybe I'm just being odd but for all we know those minut things made the difference. Deserves all the credit for being part of the team that beat the drop and more. Don't rate him though! Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Toon No9 said: So it's on again, eh??♂️ On, off... on, off... on, off.....? Nothing to see here. Move along now. Move along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 hours ago, BonesJones said: Yeh it's not looking great can't lie, just feel it's a shame hence I started with imagining it's all his agent fault. He's a young kid though that easily could've been fooled by this shady agent, from what agents have been known to be like before. Basically me hoping he's actually an angel and will get rid of said agent, sort his shit out and make the move. There's a reason Howe and co have him as the no.1 target, and I want that to come through for them and the club. With the way Howe has spoken regarding players attitude from day one, I'd imagine they've done background research or whatever it is they do so wouldn't have gone near him if it didn't look good. Let's see. Plenty of other quality young players out there, and plenty of them would come here in a heartbeat. Once we get to the European competitions and we inevitably play against some great players, they will experience our crowd/atmosphere and love for the players. Will become so much easier to attract them to the club, so many boring clubs with shit fans they will be amazed. Worse.. the shady agent could be family. That is always the worst lol I still think we will get him. Hope he isn't the only striker we get though. Wilson New striker Wood Ekitike Should be our pool. Seeing as we generally only play one up top we don't need a 5th. Joelinton or a reserve play can also fill in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Toon No9 said: So it's on again, eh??♂️ On, off... on, off... on, off.....? It’s never been fully off, the club have basically told the agent what they will pay and are just playing chicken with him now. As other players complete moves (Scamacca to PSG, Haller to BVB etc) his leverage will continue to evaporate. I imagine we are sounding out other targets but probably won’t truly walk away unless we can get a deal done for a comparable player quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 I think the only thing Wood did wrong last season was not take enough of the good goal scoring opportunities presented to him, the rest of his play hugely benefited the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Playing FM and this little cunt rejected me, would not even talk wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, Ben said: I think the only thing Wood did wrong last season was not take enough of the good goal scoring opportunities presented to him, the rest of his play hugely benefited the team. Careful lad, you'll have the Wood haters piling in big time with reasonable crack like that. Daft cunts can't seem to fathom why we paid the release clause required to guarantee us a PL striker straight away or even ponder how he AND all the other "shite" "deadwood" "championship players" managed to get us so high up the table with top 4 form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Careful lad, you'll have the Wood haters piling in big time with reasonable crack like that. Daft cunts can't seem to fathom why we paid the release clause required to guarantee us a PL striker straight away or even ponder how he AND all the other "shite" "deadwood" "championship players" managed to get us so high up the table with top 4 form. Whilst I agree with you I don't think language like that is necessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 We were in a dire situation and desperately needed a focus point and presence up top and Wood provided that - he was a short term fix and helped drag us away from the relegation zone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Whilst I agree with you I don't think language like that is necessary. Aye, I know. Lazy tbf. I meant "dafties" ? Sometimes I forget I'm not on Skunkers or down the pub ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Ben said: I think the only thing Wood did wrong last season was not take enough of the good goal scoring opportunities presented to him, the rest of his play hugely benefited the team. Actually, even his scoring ability wasn’t as bad as some people here make it sound. He scored only 2 goals, but his expected goal was 2.9 anyways. He was just not given a good number of scoring opportunities. Edited July 1, 2022 by Solitude20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Just now, Solitude20 said: Actually, even his scoring ability wasn’t as bad as some people here make it sound. He scored only 2 goals, but his expected goal was 2.9 anyways. He was just given a good number of scoring opportunities. If he was given a good number of scoring opportunities, why isn't his expected goals higher? Must admit I don't understand EG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 He means wasn't given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: If he was given a good number of scoring opportunities, why isn't his expected goals higher? Must admit I don't understand EG Sorry, it was a typing error. Just fixed it. I meant he was not given a good number of good scoring opportunities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Solitude20 said: Sorry, it was a typing error. Just fixed it. I meant he was not given a good number of good scoring opportunities. I suppose this is my issue with "expected goals". If a striker gets into better positions surely he gets more chances? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) Well true, but it works the other way too. He might be making good runs and the ball doesn’t get delivered. It’s just a stat about quality of chances, it can’t be used for more than that. You’d have to work out why he isn’t getting more or better chances. Edited July 1, 2022 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I suppose this is my issue with "expected goals". If a striker gets into better positions surely he gets more chances? Yeah xG is a metric which shows a players ability to get into goal scoring positions & his team’s ability to get him the ball in those positions. Comparing xG with actual goals scored should give an idea on the players finishing ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 46 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Careful lad, you'll have the Wood haters piling in big time with reasonable crack like that. Daft cunts can't seem to fathom why we paid the release clause required to guarantee us a PL striker straight away or even ponder how he AND all the other "shite" "deadwood" "championship players" managed to get us so high up the table with top 4 form. So anyone who doesn't agree with you is a 'daft cunt'? Not going to state my opinions on Wood again, especially as this isn't even his thread but people are allowed to have opinions different to yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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