Thumbheed Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Manxst said: Don’t want to sound pedantic but he’s going to be 21 this June. Still young and learning though, yes. *was 19 Edited April 12, 2023 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Thumbheed said: This business about him being a cunt is a bit weird like. Gets the opportunity to play for the most prestigious club in his country and one of the biggest in the world and fans of Newcastle United get put out because he doesn't pick them? IIRC PSG came late to the party and were in the middle of a manager change so of course you'd hang around to see what they had to say. Totally agree his agent sounds like a cunt but the lads 19 years old ffs. I agree, but there have been a few French reports that his attitude has been poor while at PSG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I don’t care if he turned us down, he was being advised by a clown to do that. Reality will bite here and he’ll begin to start thinking “ooh.. time to start taking this seriously if the career is going to go anywhere” PSG was a shiny trophy of a move, a dream for any French kid who probably didn’t or couldn’t see that it’s an absolute poison bowl of overpaid egos. It was a move that was never going to work out, especially when Neymar decided to dig in and stay. If he gets rid of said clown and surrounds himself with serious people, his career will turn around am fairly sure and I wouldn’t be opposed to him joining. Would also give Maxi someone to play big brother to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) Just seen his recent goal against Lens. May have softened on my opinion of him joining us. Honestly no idea when this game is from. Edited April 14, 2023 by Dokko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Fuck him. Showed his colours when he chose the local big money over the serious challenge and then started acting the goat on social media about it. Some players are Bruno Guimaraes and some players are Hugo Ekitike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) As we have just seen with the Anthony Gordon fuss, we thankfully have a manager with a very cool calm head that does not over react and get overly emotional about things, but is instead a very fair and reasonable human being. He will not have taken things personally and as some sort of slight like so many on here do. If a deal is there to be done and the player has since recognised that moving to Newcastle is in fact a good move, I'm sure it will be considered. And it's interesting to note that this is what Ekitike himself actually said about Newcastle shortly after joining PSG last summer. Hugo Ekitike interviewed by Le Parisien and reported by Le10Sport, why he ended up signings for PSG and not Newcastle United, what actually happened: ‘Did you put Newcastle on hold last winter and then this summer, despite the agreement with Reims, because you were waiting for PSG?’ “I had an appointment with Luis (Campos) which meant a lot for me. “It was not so long ago. “We talked a lot, he is someone I consider enormously. “I wanted to come to PSG before this exchange but it convinced me even more. “I don’t put aside everything Newcastle did to get me to come. “If I had to go abroad, I would have gone there. “But when PSG wants you and you’re French, you can’t refuse.” Edited April 15, 2023 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) It means “I have zero interest in joining Newcastle since day one. I didn’t put it aside, it’s simply a waste of time right from the beginning” however, nowadays, I don’t believe any club would make an offer if they know (mostly from the agent) that the player has absolutely no interest in joining them. You might argue for this but my take is the club was informed that the player MIGHT agree the move to here, hence we spent nearly TWO windows and making several rounds of negotiations with Reims and the players agent, UNTIL PSG finally submit a bid. The player himself and the agent are cunts in the highest order. Fuck them all. We are lucky that the gamble on Isak is a win, or else we are in deep trouble. Edited April 15, 2023 by Zero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 David Bellion vibes. Leave well alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Zero said: It means “I have zero interest in joining Newcastle since day one. I didn’t put it aside, it’s simply a waste of time right from the beginning” however, nowadays, I don’t believe any club would make an offer if they know (mostly from the agent) that the player has absolutely no interest in joining them. You might argue for this but my take is the club was informed that the player MIGHT agree the move to here, hence we spent nearly TWO windows and making several rounds of negotiations with Reims and the players agent, UNTIL PSG finally submit a bid. The player himself and the agent are cunts in the highest order. Fuck them all. We are lucky that the gamble on Isak is a win, or else we are in deep trouble. Isak was not a 'gamble', neither was he an alternative to Ekitike. You barely even know what's been going on at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, KaKa said: Isak was not a 'gamble', neither was he an alternative to Ekitike. You barely even know what's been going on at the club. He is a gamble. Every high profile transfer is a gamble. Look at Mudryk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Zero said: He is a gamble. Every high profile transfer is a gamble. Look at Mudryk. Yeah, I'm sure they just woke up one morning and decided to randomly spend £60 million on Isak after pulling his name out of a hat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 He’s in a huff because he can barely get a kick in a farmer’s league, but if he joins us now he’s a fringe player. We’ve moved beyond him. He needs to go somewhere and get his career back on track. Might turn into the player he threatened to be if he screws his head on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 minute ago, christ said: He’s in a huff because he can barely get a kick in a farmer’s league, but if he joins us now he’s a fringe player. We’ve moved beyond him. He needs to go somewhere and get his career back on track. Might turn into the player he threatened to be if he screws his head on. He was the top scorer at Reims at 19 years old and helped keep them up in the 'farmers league' he apparently can't get a kick in. You sound dumb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 What the hell are you drunk Kaka? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 I'm glad we didn't get him. We would have Isak now otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Zero said: What the hell are you drunk Kaka? Nope. You lot are just talking rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: I'm glad we didn't get him. We would have Isak now otherwise. Wrong. Isak was brought in because Wilson got injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 minute ago, KaKa said: He was the top scorer at Reims at 19 years old and helped keep them up in the 'farmers league' he apparently can't get a kick in. You sound dumb One good season means nothing, particularly if you’ve got the attitude he seems to have. He’s been underwhelming at PSG. He appears to have spat his dummy out because he’s behind Mbappe, Messi and Neymar, and they’re now trying to move him on before the obligation to buy has actually properly kicked in. I know PSG are a joke behind the scenes, but that should be a huge red flag. We’re not in the same position we were 12-18 months ago when we were after him. The circular debate about whether we should or shouldn’t go for him seems pointless to me - we’ve progressed to a point where if he came he’d find himself in the same situation he is at PSG that he’s so unhappy with. It’s clear he needs to get his head down elsewhere and get more than a solitary good run of form under his belt and make the most of his potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Just now, christ said: One good season means nothing, particularly if you’ve got the attitude he seems to have. He’s been underwhelming at PSG. He appears to have spat his dummy out because he’s behind Mbappe, Messi and Neymar, and they’re now trying to move him on before the obligation to buy has actually properly kicked in. I know PSG are a joke behind the scenes, but that should be a huge red flag. We’re not in the same position we were 12-18 months ago when we were after him. The circular debate about whether we should or shouldn’t go for him seems pointless to me - we’ve progressed to a point where if he came he’d find himself in the same situation he is at PSG that he’s so unhappy with. It’s clear he needs to get his head down elsewhere and get more than a solitary good run of form under his belt and make the most of his potential. You're wrong, and so if we sign him in the summer just don't cry too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: You're wrong, and so if we sign him in the summer just don't cry too much. What parts do you take issue with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Kaka you need to take a wee look at yourself and the way you talk to people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 minute ago, christ said: What parts do you take issue with? Well it appears the PSG signing of Ekitike was largely driven by their new DOF Luis Campos, rather than the manager. The first half of the season, in a league where they regularly had it quite easy against teams, he played a total of 224 mins, so just over 2 total games minutes wise (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/hugo-ekitike/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/709726/plus/0?saison=2022&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=). I think he had a good reason to be annoyed, personally, even though the way he handled it wasn't ideal. Therefore, to say he would be in the same situation here is not at all accurate. Wilson always misses time through injury, and so we cannot under any circumstances go into next season with just him and Isak, and ideally would have a younger talent that can come off the bench at times, start some games up top, as well as be able to also fill in in other attacking positions too. Ekitike fits the mould, and would get a decent amount of game time in such a role, especially with European games now likely to be played too. I don't even particularly care if we sign this guy, and have always maintained it was a poor choice on his part to go to PSG ahead of the multiple other options he had, especially the Dortmund one. Having said all that though, i think the narrative with him is over the top IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: I don't even particularly care if we sign this guy, and have always maintained it was a poor choice on his part to go to PSG ahead of the multiple other options he had, especially the Dortmund one. Having said all that though, i think the narrative with him is over the top IMO. Could’ve fooled me We’re signing better players than him this summer. He’d be third or fourth choice at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jimburst said: Kaka you need to take a wee look at yourself and the way you talk to people. Yeah, maybe. Just being a bit cheeky, but maybe coming across worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Just now, christ said: Could’ve fooled me We’re signing better players than him this summer. He’d be third or fourth choice at best. We have Isak and Wilson already who will both expect to be the main options. I think we'll sign either Pedro or Ekitike as a versatile third striker. Both would be quality high calibre youngsters to bring in IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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