LiquidAK Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Butcher said: He couldn't hold the ball up for shit. Re-writing history again. There's no need to be upset Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 5 minutes ago, The Butcher said: He couldn't hold the ball up for shit. Re-writing history again. Yeah, he's actually pretty poor at it. Even at Burnley, Ashley Barnes always did the dirty work for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 Purple patch - won't last Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 16 minutes ago, KaKa said: There's a general habit of calling players shite even at other clubs that really irks me. There's so much that goes into getting the best out of certain players. Most need a setup that benefits them. The exceptional players find a way no matter what, but those are rare. You watch how isolated Isak can be in our setup sometimes and you understand why Wood struggled. Isak has still been great for us anyway because of his greater ability and talent. The thing Wood really struggled with was holding the ball up in general play, or dropping into space and linking play when needed, which is required in our 4-3-3 because there's often no one playing off the striker. At forest they play someone in the number 10 position which takes a lot of that responsibility off him, as he can just stay high up the pitch. I think he also benefits from playing with two wide men that are more traditional in looking to beat their man and whip a ball into the box. He's showing he's got really good goal scoring instincts if the right conditions are put in place for him. I don't think he would have ever showed the same for us with the way our system works. This is exactly it. No need for the 'atodaso' screams every other post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 (edited) 59 minutes ago, duo said: Purple patch - won't last His record while he was here is the anomaly, not the one he has now. He's an established 1 in 3 Premier League striker and has been for years. Edited October 26, 2024 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Cardigan Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said: If you're not allowed to describe what you see with your own eyes then what's the point in the forum. I think what’s annoying is how hyperbolic the criticism gets when someone doesn’t set the world alright here. If you’d scouted Wood purely from comments on here you’d be convinced you were getting a league 2 player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 9 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said: I think what’s annoying is how hyperbolic the criticism gets when someone doesn’t set the world alright here. If you’d scouted Wood purely from comments on here you’d be convinced you were getting a league 2 player. If people think he looked that bad then what's the issue? Roy Keane called Haaland a League 2 player... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, St1pe said: I don’t get why there has to be such a debate on ex-players all the time. Factually he was awful for us in front of goal - it’s not even debatable he was mostly useless. His work rate was great and tried hard for the team but frequently missed chances. He’s done absolutely brilliantly since he left and he’s one of those ex-players I’m chuffed about whenever I see he’s scored again. He gave his all of us but it just didn’t work out. At the time any suggestion that we could get more out of him, or that he was useful, had other attributes worth having etc were largely waved away with a general assertion of "nah, he's shite" You'd think with our history of writing players off only for them then to come good, there'd be a bit more humility by the time we're onto writing off player 239, but at this point when the opportunity presents itself I mostly just enjoy being an annoying cunt and rubbing it in faces of people too cock sure of themselves to ever learn their lesson tbh. Edited October 26, 2024 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 (edited) Mamardashvili Frimpong Tosin Guehi Burn Elliot Schar McTominay Minteh Wood Saint-Maximin Oh what could've been if it wasn't for Howe's stubbornness Edited October 26, 2024 by TBG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 He wasn't great for us but doesn't come anywhere near the worst. He was brought in to do a job, did it and left. He's doing well now so good for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 He’s doing well in a team that plays completely to his strengths and he’s full of confidence. Still not good enough for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 He scored 5 goals for us, he was shit for us Carl Cort did better for us. He was terrible at doing his sole job for us, he didn't fit us at all. Don't know why fans have to have a meltdown when our former players have a good period, albeit this time it is probably down to us not acting when we knew Wilson was a permacrock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 If we sell Isak I wonder how much it will take to bring him back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 2 hours ago, KaKa said: There's a general habit of calling players shite even at other clubs that really irks me. There's so much that goes into getting the best out of certain players. Most need a setup that benefits them. The exceptional players find a way no matter what, but those are rare. You watch how isolated Isak can be in our setup sometimes and you understand why Wood struggled. Isak has still been great for us anyway because of his greater ability and talent. The thing Wood really struggled with was holding the ball up in general play, or dropping into space and linking play when needed, which is required in our 4-3-3 because there's often no one playing off the striker. At forest they play someone in the number 10 position which takes a lot of that responsibility off him, as he can just stay high up the pitch. I think he also benefits from playing with two wide men that are more traditional in looking to beat their man and whip a ball into the box. He's showing he's got really good goal scoring instincts if the right conditions are put in place for him. I don't think he would have ever showed the same for us with the way our system works. Agreed. Not a good fit for us. But he tried hard, fairly mobile for a big lad, won some headers. He did a job for us. The move was best for all parties. He’s now playing in a team that plays to his strengths and playing the best football of his career. I never bought the ‘he’s shit’ tripe. He looked decent for us imo in a system not suited to him. And his record before and after proves he had something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 Just seen Woods goals - Class 1st - like his goal for us vs Southampton! He did a job for us and was a focal point who helped us stay up - good luck to him - seems a good egg too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Aiston said: He scored 5 goals for us, he was shit for us Carl Cort did better for us. He was terrible at doing his sole job for us, he didn't fit us at all. Don't know why fans have to have a meltdown when our former players have a good period, albeit this time it is probably down to us not acting when we knew Wilson was a permacrock I don't think anyone really thinks he did superb for us, I think the discussion is about over the top comments of him as a player. Edited October 26, 2024 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 3 hours ago, TBG said: Mamardashvili Frimpong Tosin Guehi Burn Elliot Schar McTominay Minteh Wood Saint-Maximin Oh what could've been if it wasn't for Howe's stubbornness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 (edited) He scored 49 out of 144 aps for Burnley then came to us and struggled. Went to Forest where he’s on 22 out of 47. That indicates to me that when he was here the problem might not have been him. Oh and New Zealand he’s on 36 out of 78. Edited October 26, 2024 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 (edited) There is some serious revisionism and after-timing in this thread of late Edited October 26, 2024 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: There is some serious revisionism and after-timing in this thread of late I mean you can check the tapes, I've been saying he was underappreciated and didn't deserve the dogs abuse he got since way before we sold him. I'm not saying he's suddenly oozing class, or that I'd want us to buy him back by any means (I absolutely wouldn't) - but I haven't exactly changed my tune in regards to thinking he's not a terrible player despite his struggles here. Be lying if I said it wasn't fairly satisfying seeing a few of the Always Miserable gang having to watch him bang them in, even if it's a purple patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: I mean you can check the tapes, I've been saying he was underappreciated and didn't deserve the dogs abuse he got since way before we sold him. I'm not saying he's suddenly oozing class, or that I'd want us to buy him back by any means (I absolutely wouldn't) - but I haven't exactly changed my tune in regards to thinking he's not a terrible player despite his struggles here. Be lying if I said it wasn't fairly satisfying seeing a few of the Always Miserable gang having to watch him bang them in, even if it's a purple patch Same here mate, I’ve never once slagged him off as he was part of that team that won a lot of games and climbed up the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 Yup, undeniably limited but he always put the effort in for the team. Can't hate that even if I'd of course have preferred Isak fit and starting ahead of him every day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 (edited) I think his confidence was also a bit low aswell when he was here. He came here after a pretty rough patch at Burnley. Edited October 26, 2024 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted October 26, 2024 Share Posted October 26, 2024 I’m glad he’s doing well for our football fwends Forest, after Shelvey and initially Wood they might have been hesitant taking our cast offs. But now we have credit in the bank and they are winning, with Anderson and Wood doing well and them casting off the Greek gk. All bodes well for them taking Almiron, Longstaff and Lascelles in return for Gibbs White, Hudson Odoi and Murillo in summer 2025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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