Sima Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 10 hours ago, gdm said: No Thanks for the info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Seems like Martial was a reasonable agreement in the end. Weird how suddenly they're treating us quite differently... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Couldn't give a shit tbh. I like Lingard, nice lad, decent player, but come the summer we'll be onto new things regardless of how the next six months go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 A fucking £15m loan if we stop up? Get to fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Cheese Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Lingard needs to force a move out, but just can't see it. He's not going to kick up a stink, take a hit on whatever he has left on his contract/loyalty bonus just for 6 months of football in a relegation battle. He's been happy enough to sit on his arse for the season so far instead of forcing a move out to actually play - guaranteed a deal involving all parties could have been fixed in the summer to see him move to West Ham. Lingard clearly wanted it, but wanted his money far more. £50M is taking the piss, and all parties must realise that. He was never a £50M player in years ago when he was playing, or even in the summer of the back of his hot streak in the capital, and he wouldn't be a £50M player if he was contracted for years to come. Man United know the market well enough to realise no fucker is going to pay £50M on a player that can't get a game, and has 6 months on a contract - they know he's going to cost them a few million in his remaining contract and loyalty bonus come end of June. Come deadline day, it will come down to whether Lingard wants to take a slice on the money he'll earn doing fuck all for next few months. Edited January 26, 2022 by Clockwork Cheese Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 If Lingard moves permanently now, there'll be a fee involved. Not £50m obviously, but a fee which will mean he'll get less wages with his new club. Given that he'll be free in 6 months, he might as well sit tight and just accept a loan if need be so that when he's free in 6 months he can negotiate a better contract with his new club because they'll be getting him for nothing. It's hard to criticise him really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Cheese Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 He's never getting a better contract than what he's on at MU now like. Nobody that's going to bother with him is ever going to pay him north of £100K, especially on a 29 year old that's barely kicked a ball for a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: I know what they’re trying to say. We’re getting (in their opinion) a £50m player if he was under a contract for £15m. Doesn’t work like that though. Call their bluff. He’ll be away on deadline day when they realise they’ll actually get nowt and it’ll be closer to £4-5m I bet. Man U's position is weak and they are taking the piss. There is a real prospect of him downing tools, collecting his wages, and walking in the summer. Go back on transfer day and offer a deal with a bonus if he scores say 6 goals. After goal number 5, we stop playing him unless totally desperate. The idea of paying Man U because Trippier, Wood, ASM, Bruno (I hope), better organization, etc. has kept us up is ridiculous. We're already improving without Lingard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 11 hours ago, HTT II said: @Froggywhat do think will happen here? Not just specifically in regards to him joining NUFC or not, but leaving this window? You're in a poor position, you're desperate, you're rich and you want our player. I would be very surprised if he doesn't leave. It looks like Van de Beek will be off on loan so if you don't pay close to what we want I would imagine we'll be happy to keep Lingard as back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Froggy said: You're in a poor position, you're desperate, you're rich and you want our player. I would be very surprised if he doesn't leave. It looks like Van de Beek will be off on loan so if you don't pay close to what we want I would imagine we'll be happy to keep Lingard as back up. Serves ourselves right for charging you £50 million for Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ben said: Serves ourselves right for charging you £50 million for Longstaff. The Longstaff interest was never serious, but aye, that won't have helped. Would struggle to get £10m for Longstaff now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Throw in a transfer request then. Do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 BBC reckons Man U wanted £1,000,000 week for him and package total worth £12,000,000 to hell with tat, if they are prepared to allow him to lie in his deckchair then let them get on with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, wyn davies said: BBC reckons Man U wanted £1,000,000 week for him and package total worth £12,000,000 to hell with tat, if they are prepared to allow him to lie in his deckchair then let them get on with it If that's the case then Lingard is going to have to hit the ground running in August to get anywhere near the England squad for the world Cup, in fact if he doesn't play between now and then he might have missed his last chance to go to a world cup, no wonder he wants to leave Nan Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 It's astonishing the amount of times people still quote the Daily Mail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Cheese Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) No faith in him that he really wants to be playing football tbh... His situation with Man United won't be anything new to him, would have been made clear what it was going to cost him in the summer to get a move out - whether forgoing a chunk of his final year contract, or kicking up a stink and transfer requesting. In a summer where Ronaldo and Sancho are signed, where you're about 6th choice off the bench as is, it was bloody obvious your never playing. If he wanted his move to West Ham badly enough he would have put in transfer request and forced a move out, would have cost him his end. End of the day, Man United aren't going to stand in the way of a 29year that's nowhere near starting XI leaving the club. Opportunity would have been there for him to leave in the summer to West Ham, and probably had offers elsewhere too. Lingard needs to force his way out, but I think he'd prefer to just collect his money and expect a club like us to match his wages to get him out. Edited January 27, 2022 by Clockwork Cheese Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Froggy said: It's astonishing the amount of times people still quote the Daily Mail. It's Craig Hope. He's probably the best in the North East for accuracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, Clockwork Cheese said: Just Lingard needs to force his way out, but I think he'd prefer to just collect his money and expect a club like us to match his wages to get him out. Seriously? He's been a part of this club since he was 7 years old. He isn't the sort to be a dickhead and force a move away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Cheese Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, Froggy said: Seriously? He's been a part of this club since he was 7 years old. He isn't the sort to be a dickhead and force a move away. 'force a move out' doesn't have to mean being a dick about it... Can make it clear that he wants a move out, put a transfer request in etc. etc. Theres obviously a right way to go about things, wasn't suggesting he be an arsehole over it all. We see players engineer moves out of clubs all the time, you're not telling me that if Lingard wanted to spend this season playing he couldn't have left Man United in the summer, or even at the start of this window? Why the hell would Man United stand in the way of a 6th choice attacking midfielder leave the club - especially when he's entering his final year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: It's Craig Hope. He's probably the best in the North East for accuracy. Lingard's personal feelings towards Manchester United are nothing to do with the North East. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Clockwork Cheese said: 'force a move out' doesn't have to mean being a dick about it... Can make it clear that he wants a move out, put a transfer request in etc. etc. Theres obviously a right way to go about things, wasn't suggesting he be an arsehole over it all. We see players engineer moves out of clubs all the time, you're not telling me that if Lingard wanted to spend this season playing he couldn't have left Man United in the summer, or even at the start of this window? Why the hell would Man United stand in the way of a 6th choice attacking midfielder leave the club - especially when he's entering his final year. We wouldn't stand in his way, just as he wouldn't force anything. There's a lot of mutual respect there. I don't think it has been handled badly by anyone. I still think he'll be gone soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Froggy said: We wouldn't stand in his way, just as he wouldn't force anything. There's a lot of mutual respect there. I don't think it has been handled badly by anyone. I still think he'll be gone soon. I think hell leave this window either to us or West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Cheese Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, Froggy said: We wouldn't stand in his way, just as he wouldn't force anything. There's a lot of mutual respect there. I don't think it has been handled badly by anyone. I still think he'll be gone soon. Can appreciate that, but can imagine he would have been told between the lines he could have gone in the summer if he wanted. I'm questioning the fact that he hasn't left Man United, and has allowed himself to sit on the bench all season despite finishing last season in cracking form. Dan James made the professional decision to move on despite being under contract knowing he wouldn't play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Dan James was sold because Leeds offered us £25m for a £10m player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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