DMLeazesender Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Charlies said: Honestly believe this will still happen. Agree - think it might be a last minute deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bruno-guimaraes-newcastle-set-to-conclude-33m-deal-for-brazilian-midfielder-0l7rtgfg3 Newcastle officials have also not given up on negotiating a loan deal to sign Jesse Lingard for the rest of the season and plan to open new talks. Manchester United had drawn criticism when it was revealed they had asked for a £12 million bonus fee to be part of any loan switch for the 29-year-old if Newcastle avoided relegation. That fee is now believed to be negotiable, opening up the possibility of a fourth signing arriving at St James’ Park in January after Kieran Trippier, Chris Wood and potentially Guimarães. Maybe one for deadline day like some have said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Rich said: Where would he play if he did join? Either replacing Fraser as many have said. Or behind Wood since we need more bite in the middle too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Options Baby, it gives us options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xa9as Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Can see Lingard deal going to deadline day. Man United are in a bad position to be negotiating from. Lingard's probably about 7 or 8 choice attacking player with 6 months left on a deal, and wants out... If MU don't sort a deal for him to leave, instead of getting money into the club, he's just going to cost them by seeing out his contract and bonuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 He's said to be n 75k a week. If he stays he's going to cost them £1.5m in wages plus bonuses if he plays and a loyalty bonus when he goes. I also wouldn't rule out the bad optics if he stays and doesn't kick a ball. I think this might get to January 31 and they'll panic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I can't picture a teamsheet without Shelvey's name in it as Howe has made it clear from the word go that he's a crucial part of his setup. However, given how well Joelinton has come on, it doesn't feel that mad to suggest the he and Bruno could function as the double-pivot in a 4-2-3-1, with Lingard off Wood and ASM/Fraser either side. Lingard, if he were to sign (which, like a few others, I can see happening late in the day) could turn up on the right like folks have suggested but it doesn't seem like a natural position. I do wonder - given who and what we've been linked with - if Howe is ultimately aiming for three CBs and wing-backs. At the World Cup Southgate played something like a 3-1-4-2, which we could just about replicate (including with two of the same actual players from the team!) if we were to get the other defensive additions he's been after. Walker Stones Maguire Henderson Trippier Young Lingard Alli Sterling Kane Carlos Lascelles Botman Bruno Trippier Bakker Lingard Joelinton Wood Saint-Maximin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xa9as Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Thiago said: He's said to be n 75k a week. If he stays he's going to cost them £1.5m in wages plus bonuses if he plays and a loyalty bonus when he goes. I also wouldn't rule out the bad optics if he stays and doesn't kick a ball. I think this might get to January 31 and they'll panic. Always thought he was on much more than 75k, had in my mind it was something like £150K. If he doesn't kick up a fuss and get a move out, I'd seriously question his mentality and wouldn't be too bothered that we ultimately missed out. Should have done so in the summer really. The coming few days will define him his true mentality for me. Always thought him as a total plonker of the pitch, but if he's content to just collect his money for 6 months instead of forcing out then fuck him. Barely played for them in 19/20, was loaned out in 20/21, stays despite MU signing Ronaldo and Sancho ahead of him. He had good momentum, and was playing best football of his career on back of West Ham and has undone all that by not playing for 6months. Edited January 28, 2022 by Xa9as Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Not really fussed whether we get him or not. He would definitely be useful for the next 4 months, but not crtical for survival imo if we get Bruno and a CB in before the window shuts. There's younger and better players we can bring in for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Conjo said: Not really fussed whether we get him or not. He would definitely be useful for the next 4 months, but not crtical for survival imo if we get Bruno and a CB in before the window shuts. There's younger and better players we can bring in for next season. I agree with what you say.....and I think it fucking great that we have that opinion.....it shows how far we have come in a very short time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 He’d be a huge add given we’re categorically shite. Not to say it hasn’t been funny as fuck to see the Irish Reds, Guildford Ultras and sadly actual journalists celebrating him not getting a move to a club who is verboten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Conjo said: Not really fussed whether we get him or not. He would definitely be useful for the next 4 months, but not crtical for survival imo if we get Bruno and a CB in before the window shuts. There's younger and better players we can bring in for next season. Honestly, this is a big early win for me as a fan. You're right, if we get him or not feels somewhat incnosequential, and the reason for that is because we know the club is almost certainly working on other deals and targets to make the team stronger. Typically we'd have heard about this deal on deadline day with hours to go and watched it fall apart with not even a whiff of a second choice lined up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 hours ago, 54 said: I like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Rich said: Where would he play if he did join? Fraser’s position maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Sign Dele Ali too and make it ASM D. Ali Lingard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Disco said: He’d be a huge add given we’re categorically shite. Not to say it hasn’t been funny as fuck to see the Irish Reds, Guildford Ultras and sadly actual journalists celebrating him not getting a move to a club who is verboten Have you genuinely seen this? The only thing fans are happy about is the club not bending over and being shafted on deals any more. We can easily shift Lingard at any moment, so why would we make it easy when the club with the richest owners come looking for him? Saying that, it's also important to remember that he's rubbish and a billion miles away from our team. There might be some jostling on social media, but everyone wants him to move on. The fact we're going to get any money for him is a bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Fraser’s position maybe? Yep 100% Trippier and Lingard down one wing. Bakker and ASM down the other. What a transformation from Ritchie, Krafu, Fraser, Murphy etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 hours ago, 54 said: Not content with quoting the Daily Mail, people are now quoting a porn newspaper. Following this trajectory the next quote will be from Hello magazine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, Froggy said: Have you genuinely seen this? The only thing fans are happy about is the club not bending over and being shafted on deals any more. We can easily shift Lingard at any moment, so why would we make it easy when the club with the richest owners come looking for him? Saying that, it's also important to remember that he's rubbish and a billion miles away from our team. There might be some jostling on social media, but everyone wants him to move on. The fact we're going to get any money for him is a bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Yeah, have to feel for Man Utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 44 minutes ago, Froggy said: Have you genuinely seen this? The only thing fans are happy about is the club not bending over and being shafted on deals any more. We can easily shift Lingard at any moment, so why would we make it easy when the club with the richest owners come looking for him? Saying that, it's also important to remember that he's rubbish and a billion miles away from our team. There might be some jostling on social media, but everyone wants him to move on. The fact we're going to get any money for him is a bonus. Rattled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, Collage said: Rattled. Honestly, what is there to be rattled about? It's a win/win situation for us, and I've spoken nothing but the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawdaw Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Froggy said: Honestly, what is there to be rattled about? It's a win/win situation for us, and I've spoken nothing but the truth. Yes but he walks in June for Zero 🤪 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Froggy said: Honestly, what is there to be rattled about? It's a win/win situation for us, and I've spoken nothing but the truth. You tell me. You’re either rattled or just being a dick. Maybe a bit of both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Collage said: You tell me. You’re either rattled or just being a dick. Maybe a bit of both. I'd point you to his post history to give a better indication of which it is..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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