Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Jawdaw said: Yes but he walks in June for Zero ? He was walking for zero in June anyway. There's nothing dicky about saying that he's not very good, because he isn't. Or that he is a billion miles away from our team because he is. Don't understand the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Froggy said: He was walking for zero in June anyway. There's nothing dicky about saying that he's not very good, because he isn't. Or that he is a billion miles away from our team because he is. Don't understand the issue. So what do you make of his form for West Ham last year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I'd point you to his post history to give a better indication of which it is..... You mean 2nd best non-Toon poster 2013 Froggy's post history? Nothing but absolute gold in there son. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, DJ_NUFC said: So what do you make of his form for West Ham last year? His first handful of games? Brilliant little purple patch. He played absolutely shit after that, and West Ham missed out on the CL because of shit results against Everton and somebody else in the lower half of the table who I can't remember. He started with like 9 goals and 5 assists in his first 10/11 games and I don't think he got anything in his final 6 when the going got tough. His West Ham spell is the only reason there's a chance of us getting money for him right now. I promise you, he isn't a good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I think we will get him anyway. Brinkmanship. Froggy, we are shite mate. Lingard is a massive upgrade on what we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Froggy said: His first handful of games? Brilliant little purple patch. He played absolutely shit after that, and West Ham missed out on the CL because of shit results against Everton and somebody else in the lower half of the table who I can't remember. He started with like 9 goals and 5 assists in his first 10/11 games and I don't think he got anything in his final 6 when the going got tough. His West Ham spell is the only reason there's a chance of us getting money for him right now. I promise you, he isn't a good player. We only need him for a little purple patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawdaw Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Froggy said: He was walking for zero in June anyway. There's nothing dicky about saying that he's not very good, because he isn't. Or that he is a billion miles away from our team because he is. Don't understand the issue. Yes but you could get some return on him if you weren’t asking for silly money. Just seems a bit strange to turn your back on a few million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, STM said: Froggy, we are shite mate. Lingard is a massive upgrade on what we have. Possibly, but when you're able to sign players like Bruno Guimaraes I'd just steer clear from him to be honest. Like I said, if you give us money for him I'll be delighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Froggy said: His first handful of games? Brilliant little purple patch. He played absolutely shit after that, and West Ham missed out on the CL because of shit results against Everton and somebody else in the lower half of the table who I can't remember. He started with like 9 goals and 5 assists in his first 10/11 games and I don't think he got anything in his final 6 when the going got tough. His West Ham spell is the only reason there's a chance of us getting money for him right now. I promise you, he isn't a good player. As Disco pointed out, he’s better than Fraser and Murphy and thus an upgrade for us. A six month loan is no brainer for us at a reasonable price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, Jawdaw said: Yes but you could get some return on him if you weren’t asking for silly money. Just seems a bit strange to turn your back on a few million. That's all posturing. I think we all know that £12m fee will be halved or even more in a few days. To get any sort of relegation clause at all would be a bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Funny how he's apparently gone from not wanting to join to now angry as fuck for being blocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Caught between better than we have and could help, and not doing any business with man u at all. Suppose it depends on how much Mandy & Co have singled this one out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 For the right fee, he is a decent addition for the next 5 months. Otherwise, not too fussed if he doesn't come. Have a feeling that we will see a surprise wide forward name in the next four days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dokko said: Funny how he's apparently gone from not wanting to join to now angry as fuck for being blocked. He's in Dubai jogging around with his best mate Rashford. He's happy as Larry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Conjo said: Not really fussed whether we get him or not. He would definitely be useful for the next 4 months, but not crtical for survival imo if we get Bruno and a CB in before the window shuts. There's younger and better players we can bring in for next season. Nah man. Someone like Lingard is far more important than another CB. This kind of thought process is so wild me to me. Like we all watch football right?! Midfield dictates everything, including how the opposition deals (or doesn’t) with your defense. CB is not nearly as important as a better midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Think he would have done great here and taken the pressure of Max. Glad we haven't let Man U take the p1ss though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, PeepShow4life said: Glad we haven't let Man U take the p1ss though. Yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 As others have said this smells like deadline day stuff. Sky are going to need more than 1 reporter in Newcastle on Monday at this rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Wouldn’t give them any form of survival bonus tbh. I understand the perceived logic from Manchester but na, they can fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I guess this is the only sort of victory Man Utd get to have these days, so fair play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, r0cafella said: Wouldn’t give them any form of survival bonus tbh. I understand the perceived logic from Manchester but na, they can fuck off. Wages paid in full, £2m loan fee, £4m survival fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, Froggy said: Wages paid in full, £2m loan fee, £4m survival fee. That would be a no from me dog. A 2mill loan fee for a 6 month loan is already excessive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Nah man. Someone like Lingard is far more important than another CB. This I don't agree with. 4 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Midfield dictates everything, including how the opposition deals (or doesn’t) with your defense. CB is not nearly as important as a better midfield. This I agree with. Maybe I haven't watched enough of him, but Lingard doesn't strike me as a player that dictates a match. In his first 10 matches for West Ham he scored 9 and assisted 4 goals. He managed 0 goals & 1 assist in remaining 6 matches which is more in line with the rest of his career so it's safe to assume it is more likely a purple patch like Willock rather than being a player teams have to take special precautions against. We seem to be getting a proper CM that we've been screaming out for in Bruno. If we get him, I think our next priority should be a CB considering the amount of goals we let in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, Conjo said: Maybe I haven't watched enough of him, but Lingard doesn't strike me as a player that dictates a match. In his first 10 matches for West Ham he scored 9 and assisted 4 goals. He managed 0 goals & 1 assist in remaining 6 matches which is more in line with the rest of his career so it's safe to assume it is more likely a purple patch like Willock rather than being a player teams have to take special precautions against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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