Rod Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 36 minutes ago, et tu brute said: He was out of position for the goal despite what mr clueless says. I actually mentioned in one of my posts that I don't think he's bad defensively and has been our best defender this season. His limitations with the ball and his total lack of pace are an issue though. You are so wrong. Let it go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 1 minute ago, Rod said: You are so wrong. Let it go. I'm certainly not wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 9 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: Schar wasn’t live to the quick free kick at all. His starting position was woeful and meant he couldn’t put any pressure on Welbecks touch which wasn’t particularly great. He got caught too far from the ball to make a challenge and left plenty of space behind him for a simple ball in behind. Of all the defenders he looked the one who was caught napping, the two full backs were left trying to close the gap in the middle which meant they were always playing catch up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 None of our defenders covered themselves in glory for the goal, but Schar, man. Schoolboy defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 (edited) Burn is clearly instructed to play higher and try to win the ball aggressively which is why he was seemingly "out of position" (though he wasn't actually). This has always been something we've done under Howe - the two full backs are supposed to tuck in when it happens. When Trippier and Burn play they fully understand this but Tino and Hall are obviously still learning. They did tuck in eventually, but Schar didn't challenge for the ball well enough and Livramento's attempt at a challenge was really poor. Edited October 21 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 (edited) 25 minutes ago, buzza said: Both schar and livramemto were too weak and let welbeck shove his way through. They both were guilty and Dan burn should not even be near this conversation They were weak nobody is arguing that. Burn was out of position though. Your central defenders should not be 30 yards apart on a free kick situation. If any forward moves back to the half way line then we certainly have the physicality in the midfield department to deal with that. It also leaves the position of a ball being played in behind, with a player with no pace being left wide open. Edited October 21 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 we got caught napping a bit for the goal,the ball had barely stopped moving when the kick was taken. That still left 3 on 2 to deal with it and it was a weak collective effort. Burn was the least culpable in that situation imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 1 hour ago, Smal said: Burn is clearly instructed to play higher and try to win the ball aggressively which is why he was seemingly "out of position" (though he wasn't actually). This has always been something we've done under Howe - the two full backs are supposed to tuck in when it happens. When Trippier and Burn play they fully understand this but Tino and Hall are obviously still learning. They did tuck in eventually, but Schar didn't challenge for the ball well enough and Livramento's attempt at a challenge was really poor. This is a good analysis although I must admit I'm not overly keen on someone like Burn being the guy who gets tight as he isn't very agile or good on the turn. I think you need exceptional one Vs one defenders to play this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 6 hours ago, r0cafella said: This is a good analysis although I must admit I'm not overly keen on someone like Burn being the guy who gets tight as he isn't very agile or good on the turn. I think you need exceptional one Vs one defenders to play this way. Works a treat when Sven or Fab do it, but agree, it doesnt work for Burn as well. Although having said that...Fab, TIno and Hall could have done better there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TBG Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) For Americans and other none natives, what you see and what we call Pysycho Path is a walk through Wallsend. Edited October 25 by TBG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Newcastle Fan Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 His defending today was all over the place, i like him and can see what he brings to the team but we need to have Botman like quality if we are to navigate through these tough games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 2 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said: His defending today was all over the place, i like him and can see what he brings to the team but we need to have Botman like quality if we are to navigate through these tough games. He puts us under unnecessary pressure with his constant side and backward passing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 I was pissed off to say the least when I saw Kelly coming on and it was to replace Hall instead of Burn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 8 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said: His defending today was all over the place, i like him and can see what he brings to the team but we need to have Botman like quality if we are to navigate through these tough games. Counting down the days until Sven returns but he isn't fixing this. All our issues going forward and defending stem from the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 loves the little tug back, got away with one today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 He´s been one of our better players this season but today he did a MasterClass Harry Maguire impression. Constantly pushing up into a CDM position only to be caught off guard and out of position due to lack of pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Just now, Holloway said: loves the little tug back, got away with one today Was good defending IMO, never grabbed the shirt. You are allowed to use your hands to some point after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 always has his hands all over the opponent - in both boxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Anyone else gives up like he did for the Jackson goal and they’d be getting pelters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 45 minutes ago, Holloway said: loves the little tug back, got away with one today Was never a pen that man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 44 minutes ago, Holloway said: loves the little tug back, got away with one today It really worries me when I see fans saying this. Even the commentators and VAR rightly brushed it off as ridiculous and not a pen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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