gbandit Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I thought that, the audio alone could be used for gross misconduct even without a trial? Or am I being too naive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Yeah, normally I would be all about innocent until proven guilty and not sacked unless judged by the courts. Problem is here we seem to have pretty clear evidence that he did it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, gbandit said: I thought that, the audio alone could be used for gross misconduct even without a trial? Or am I being too naive From the Richard Arnold statement: "We were provided with alternative explanations for the audio recording, which was a short excerpt from a much longer recording, and for the images posted online." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Hhtoon said: From the Richard Arnold statement: "We were provided with alternative explanations for the audio recording, which was a short excerpt from a much longer recording, and for the images posted online." Aye, they didn’t need to disclose that though and although they’ll have received extra intel, it clearly won’t have dramatically altered what was in the original audio. Man U are just spinning it as such for PR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Disgusting. Honestly hope he has a career ending injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Maximum payout for unfair dismissal is £105k, so unless he claims some form of discrimination then it’s not exactly a big number for the Mancs if they really wanted to get rid. But they don’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Cunt of a man and cunt of a club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 This is clearly a delaying tactic to bring him back into the fold when they think it's "died down". Pretty horrific tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, ScottishMagpie said: Cunt of a man and cunt of a club. Surely Man U just followed protocol? As legally advised. Not sure I would label them that. Incredibly powerful club with a massive fan base and a history of success I’m deeply jealous of, yes…… More morally debased than any other multinational enterprise? Would need way more facts than I’ve read so far to conclusively say yes to that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Lotus said: Surely Man U just followed protocol? As legally advised. Not sure I would label them that. Incredibly powerful club with a massive fan base and a history of success I’m deeply jealous of, yes…… More morally debased than any other multinational enterprise? Would need way more facts than I’ve read so far to conclusively say yes to that tbh. You'd have to educate me on what the protocol for this is exactly? They didn't even listen to what their own players, fans and staff were saying about the matter. Not sure what you're second line has to do with the matter. Don't disagree with your third point. Never said they were worse than any other big company. In my opinion, I don't think you need to know absolutely everything about this situation to say that the club haven't acted as kunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 They think the value of him as a future asset outweighs the risk of reputational damage. That's why he's still there. Doubt there's anymore to it than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I think this move is a mishearing of him being told to get to fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Luis Rubiales will be at the unveiling holding up his shirt, I'm sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 What's Andoni Goikoetxea up to these days? Can he still play for Getafe's next opponents? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 So he's still on their books, no surprise cunt club, cunt supporters and cunt manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 hours ago, PRL said: Maximum payout for unfair dismissal is £105k, so unless he claims some form of discrimination then it’s not exactly a big number for the Mancs if they really wanted to get rid. But they don’t. I would have thought it may be different here. MG has a contract worth x£m over a defined period so if it was terminated illegally he would sue for the full value. Possibly outside employment laws/claims employee contracts are open ended (usually) so there is no total value to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 hours ago, ScottishMagpie said: You'd have to educate me on what the protocol for this is exactly? They didn't even listen to what their own players, fans and staff were saying about the matter. Not sure what you're second line has to do with the matter. Don't disagree with your third point. Never said they were worse than any other big company. In my opinion, I don't think you need to know absolutely everything about this situation to say that the club haven't acted as kunts. I’m just trying to imagine if it was us. It’s easy to say we’d act differently but you never know. To my astonishment he was found to have no case to answer. I take that to mean there’s a whole lot of context that somehow is sufficient to mitigate what appeared to me to be a horrible incident. And yet the CPS had nothing to go on. Just to remind us all, as has been pointed out here, you don’t need to ‘victims’ testimony to make this stick. There had to be a further important information that meant it wasn’t what it appeared to be to us. Tbh, I would rather that was so as well. Better that than the idea of a man treating his long term girlfriend and mother of his child with such contempt. So, the club are privy to information we are not. On that basis, how can we say how they’ve acted and be accurate in our assessment? I think a lot of us have a very critical view just because it’s Man U and badly we’ve done against them in all competitions and how insufferable most, but not all, of their fans are. Possibly it prejudices our position on the event. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 were Getafe the fans who went to the airport celebrating random people's arrivals, because they hadn't signed anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, astraguy said: were Getafe the fans who went to the airport celebrating random people's arrivals, because they hadn't signed anyone? Malaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, astraguy said: were Getafe the fans who went to the airport celebrating random people's arrivals, because they hadn't signed anyone? Malaga Getafe 1-0 up at HT at the Bernabau Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brummie Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Well done, Jude. Greenwood is a fucking scumbag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Like Bellingham even more after that tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 When I saw this topic bumped I did briefly shit myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 hours ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Like Bellingham even more after that tbf Aye, already was one of my favourite players like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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