KaKa Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, joeyt said: Grim I'm pretty sure Idrissa Gueye is not going around decking gay people for thrills. They should keep all of this political nonsense out of the game. It's all fake and no one really gives a shit about anyone. We've been running countless bullshit anti racism campaigns for God knows how long now, and fans are still openly throwing racial slurs at players and folks in the stands. Fuck off with the lot of it. Edited May 16, 2022 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, Village Idiot said: We drew yesterday and secured second place in La Liga. This is important because it gives us a spot in the new Supercopa, which is rather lucrative thanks to your overlords the government of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Given how dire things were looking before December, I'll honestly take this. Getting kicked out of the EL left a bit of a sour taste, we were on a high back then and it seemed we could go all the way. But ultimately this squad still needs lot of work, and we are not out of the woods financially so there's little room for big signings. Nonetheless, we have a spine of very talented young lads, which makes me optimistic for the future. Heck, even with our issues I think that if Pedri manages 40+ games next season we'll be up there. He's that special. Fantastic turnaround by Xavi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: I'm pretty sure Idrissa Gueye is not going around decking gay people for thrills. They should keep all of this political nonsense out of the game. It's all fake and no one really gives a shit about anyone. We've been running countless bullshit anti racism campaigns for God knows how long now, and fans are still openly throwing racial slurs at players and folks in the stands. Fuck off with the lot of it. I'm afraid we are currently highly political, you can't keep it out of anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 20 hours ago, Mike said: 20 hours ago, Mike said: Bet you they all applauded the kneeling before the game though! What a fucking shit show man. So sick of all the fake bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: I'm pretty sure Idrissa Gueye is not going around decking gay people for thrills. They should keep all of this political nonsense out of the game. It's all fake and no one really gives a shit about anyone'. We've been running countless bullshit anti racism campaigns for God knows how long now, and fans are still openly throwing racial slurs at players and folks in the stands. Fuck off with the lot of it. If it's such "nonsense" and "meaningless", then why has he decided to boycott it? Like it or not, by doing so he has made it clear that he is against LGBTQ rights, and that he doesn't share the mantra of equality for all, he is rightly getting shite, as it's an unbelievable shitty world view. And this whole "Racism still happens so what's the point" is the exact reason it needs to carry on, as the more that message is engrained into people the more people might use a Braincell and realise were all the exact same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, 1964 said: I'm afraid we are currently highly political, you can't keep it out of anything It's so hard to stomach man. Makes me sick. Can't wait to start piling on Gueye because he's not comfortable wearing the shirt due to his religious beliefs. These same people will be out and about the next day calling people 'gay', 'fag', 'poof' or whatever else as an insult. Fucking insufferable the lot of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, 54 said: If it's such "nonsense" and "meaningless", then why has he decided to boycott it? Like it or not, by doing so he has made it clear that he is against LGBTQ rights, and that he doesn't share the mantra of equality for all, he is rightly getting shite, as it's an unbelievable shitty world view. And this whole "Racism still happens so what's the point" is the exact reason it needs to carry on, as the more that message is engrained into people the more people might use a Braincell and realise were all the exact same. This is completely delusional and it will NEVER work this way. What a complete and utter joke man. All these stupid meaningless gestures are just being put in place so that people can all get on their high horse and self righteously have a go at others. Behind closed doors everyone is doing something very different. It's bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, KaKa said: It's so hard to stomach man. Makes me sick. Can't wait to start piling on Gueye because he's not comfortable wearing the shirt due to his religious beliefs. These same people will be out and about the next day calling people 'gay', 'fag', 'poof' or whatever else as an insult. Fucking insufferable the lot of it. What nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Religion being used as an excuse to be homophobic will never not anger me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, joeyt said: What nonsense Whatever man ... feel free to carry on with the nonsense. Keep kneeling and wearing rainbow colours and fooling yourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, KaKa said: Whatever man ... feel free to carry on with the nonsense. Keep kneeling and wearing rainbow colours and fooling yourselves. Even if you believe the nonsense you posted about Gueye, surely the point of it is to educate homophobic people and be welcoming to openly gay supporters/players. I would hate us to sign a homophobic player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, nemtizz said: Religion being used as an excuse to be homophobic will never not anger me. No ... that's just you having a problem with anyone that follows a religion, because you don't. I doubt he spends a second worrying about what anyone is choosing to do sexually. Unless you can prove he is attacking anyone for it, then quit accusing him of being homophobic. That is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Unless you can prove he is attacking anyone for it, then quit accusing him of being homophobic. Not how that works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, joeyt said: Even if you believe the nonsense you posted about Gueye, surely the point of it is to educate homophobic people and be welcoming to openly gay supporters/players. I would hate us to sign a homophobic player And who says he isn't welcoming to them if he interacts with them? What, you think any gay person that walks up to a religious person just gets abused or smacked around? Are you actually serious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, nemtizz said: Religion being used as an excuse to be homophobic will never not anger me. It’s such self-evidently wrong behaviour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, KaKa said: No ... that's just you having a problem with anyone that follows a religion, because you don't. I doubt he spends a second worrying about what anyone is choosing to do sexually. Unless you can prove he is attacking anyone for it, then quit accusing him of being homophobic. That is ridiculous. If that was the case he wouldn't have thought twice about wearing a shirt with a rainbow number on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, KaKa said: And who says he isn't welcoming to them if he interacts with them? What, you think any gay person that walks up to a religious person just gets abused or smacked around? Are you actually serious? No that's not what I said. If he isn't homophobic why did he refuse to play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, ponsaelius said: If that was the case he wouldn't have thought twice about wearing a shirt with a rainbow number on it. Um ... no. Afterall people are applauding the kneeling and still hurling racial abuse about quite comfortably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, KaKa said: Um ... no. Afterall people are applauding the kneeling and still hurling racial abuse about quite comfortably. You're referring to people as if they are one homogenous being. What a bizarre thing to say. I doubt anybody applauding the knee is also being racially abusive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Um ... no. Afterall people are applauding the kneeling and still hurling racial abuse about quite comfortably. Aye, definitely the same people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, ponsaelius said: You're referring to people as if they are one homogenous being. What a bizarre thing to say. I doubt anybody applauding the knee is also being racially abusive. Just now, gbandit said: Aye, definitely the same people I mean how naive are you guys really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I’m not discounting the fact that people are hypocrites, we all are. However, the vast majority of people hurling racial abuse are the ones who boo taking the knee and are “all lives matter” lads. You don’t seem to understand social psychology, the whole point of taking the knee and rainbow laces etc is that it becomes more and more stigmatised to be racist or homophobic. The more people that support those causes, the more ostracised racists become as it’s deemed socially unacceptable and ultimately they get called out for it, outed for being racists and get banned from games. It’s a huge societal process and takes ages to change. Would be interested to find out what you think would reduce racism and homophobic behaviour Kaka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, KaKa said: It's so hard to stomach man. Makes me sick. Can't wait to start piling on Gueye because he's not comfortable wearing the shirt due to his religious beliefs. These same people will be out and about the next day calling people 'gay', 'fag', 'poof' or whatever else as an insult. Fucking insufferable the lot of it. It would be better to also keep religion out of it then would it not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, gbandit said: I’m not discounting the fact that people are hypocrites, we all are. However, the vast majority of people hurling racial abuse are the ones who boo taking the knee and are “all lives matter” lads. You don’t seem to understand social psychology, the whole point of taking the knee and rainbow laces etc is that it becomes more and more stigmatised to be racist or homophobic. The more people that support those causes, the more ostracised racists become as it’s deemed socially unacceptable and ultimately they get called out for it, outed for being racists and get banned from games. It’s a huge societal process and takes ages to change. Would be interested to find out what you think would reduce racism and homophobic behaviour Kaka Honestly, it's actually getting to the point that I'm just as suspicious, even if not moreso of the people that go on about all these things all the time. I think it's become a very convenient cover. I don't see any of this nonsense changing. I just don't think most people are raised with any sense of decency or regard for other people, somewhere along the line it's just been lost or not deemed as important. All this kneeling, t-shirts, or rainbow colours aren't going to reverse all that. No chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, 1964 said: It would be better to also keep religion out of it then would it not? Not sure I understand what you mean, but I don't understand why any of this sort of stuff is done this way, because I see no evidence of it making ay kind of positive difference. People's backgrounds and belief systems are so diverse and complicated and influenced by a myriad of things. As long as they aren't out harming or mistreating anyone then just leave all this rubbish out man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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