STM Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Tell you what mind, I absolutely fucking love @brummie . Comes in here bashes Bruce, bashes Gerrard. Proper football fan, who knows his stuff and doesn't suffer PFM fools. I don't want Villa to do well but I hope they sack Gerrard so that our Brummie doesn't have to go through this misery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, STM said: Tell you what mind, I absolutely fucking love @brummie . Comes in here bashes Bruce, bashes Gerrard. Proper football fan, who knows his stuff and doesn't suffer PFM fools. I don't want Villa to do well but I hope they sack Gerrard so that our Brummie doesn't have to go through this misery. I hope they do as well but after the 29th October. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I take this back based on Brummie's reports. Gerrard seems to be an arrogant prick pissing off the dressing room and some fans. Somehow Lampard has the dressing room and fans behind him at Everton, which is a management skill/attribute in itself. He learnt the hard way about that at Chelsea. Also Lampard seems to have a degree of empathy and humility towards the fans he manages. There were times last season when he looked genuinely gutted by the situation. Which is bad in the sense that he's not in full control of his emotions but at least he probably cares enough to learn how to fix a problem. Gerrard always comes across as "I know better", after all, what could Gerrard possibly have to learn about the game of football. He is, after all, stevie G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I don't think he does. He's just gone full PFM while SG has just started the path. Lampard's success has come from getting in good characters and fostering a team spirit. Sean Dyche can do that. Defensively, Lampard has Everton in good standing (although they didn't look good against ManU). It's the other end of the pitch that they struggle. Granted, this could also be read as they're under constant pressure defensively and that their midfield sucks. 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I take this back based on Brummie's reports. Gerrard seems to be an arrogant prick pissing off the dressing room and some fans. Somehow Lampard has the dressing room and fans behind him at Everton, which is a management skill/attribute in itself. He learnt the hard way about that at Chelsea. Aye, Lampard wants to be a manager and a successful one, whereas Gerrard doesn't strike me as really wanting to work at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, STM said: Tell you what mind, I absolutely fucking love @brummie . Comes in here bashes Bruce, bashes Gerrard. Proper football fan, who knows his stuff and doesn't suffer PFM fools. I don't want Villa to do well but I hope they sack Gerrard so that our Brummie doesn't have to go through this misery. Yes @brummie has always been the first to call out useless PFM managers who hide behind soundbites and ex-pro fame. How much better is it in the current era when the best British managers are being appreciated for their intelligence and diligence with the likes of Howe and Potter? Honestly makes me sick when football owners keep going back to the well to dredge up football's dinosaurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, STM said: Tell you what mind, I absolutely fucking love @brummie . Comes in here bashes Bruce, bashes Gerrard. Proper football fan, who knows his stuff and doesn't suffer PFM fools. I don't want Villa to do well but I hope they sack Gerrard so that our Brummie doesn't have to go through this misery. @brummie is a really good egg. We're lucky he comes back here to post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Absolute screamer for Man City disallowed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Bizza said: Absolute screamer for Man City disallowed. Because the ball inconsequentially brushed Mahrez’s hand in the build-up You could tell the ref wanted to give it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 30 yard belter into the top corner, quick, somebody call the fun police to rule it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 If he didn’t have gloves on it might not have touched his hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Lampard has made Everton difficult to beat. They look quite solid defensively and the midfield three looks well balanced and athletic. Converting Iwobi and getting those performances out of him has been quite impressive I think. Front 3 is quite weak but it's a solid foundation to build on. They aren't a hoofball team like Dyche I don't think. Both the goals the conceded against Man U was them trying to play through them and getting caught in possession. Gerrard always seemed like a player that didn't really like tactics, pretty sure he said Rafa made him a better all round player but he hated that side of the game under him. Having to work on systems, positioning and tactics. Because he could win a game from playing a 50 yard inch perfect pass into Torres or bang one in from 30 yards when they needed a winner it seems like he's expecting players he's managing to be able to do the same and then being frustrated they aren't. Seems to have a a lot of the same traits as Roy Keane does which doesn't usually translate into a good manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Pen. Again, complete accident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I'll never understand why Mahrez is taking pels in that City side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Blatant foul that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 All going off in Scandinavia’s premiere capital city. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Could be red this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Red card, he can't complain about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 That's a bad 5 minutes for Mahrez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Quote City are the first team to miss a penalty and have a player sent off in the first half of a Champions League game since Arsenal against Bayern Munich in February 2014. I guess that constitutes getting hauled off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Anyone else imagining 3k geordies in Copenhagen etc next year? Shouldn't do it to myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Juve firmly in the mud these days. Lovely stuff. Great heel turn by Allegri to contribute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, The Bonk said: Defensively, Lampard has Everton in good standing (although they didn't look good against ManU). It's the other end of the pitch that they struggle. Granted, this could also be read as they're under constant pressure defensively and that their midfield sucks. Aye, Lampard wants to be a manager and a successful one, whereas Gerrard doesn't strike me as really wanting to work at it. These aren't stats that suggest there's great coaching going on. Their GK is busy as are their defenders. Get good characters like Tarkowski & Coady (and players) in the dressing room, Pickford in good form and the fans behind you - yeh they'll make big saves, make the clearances and get the blocks in. Which is good management in the sense he's getting good players and characters in and they are all fully committed but that's not coaching. That's the Pardew skillset. And after all that, they are 3rd worst for expected goals against https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/Premier-League-Stats although from what i can tell they are mid-table for "big chances conceded" which are Xg shots conceded over 0.3 I think. Also being good defensively but not being able to score - isn't a good thing. He's yet to show he's able to find a balance. But as has been pointed out. He seems to understand management involves getting people (players, fans) to follow your plan with commitment. If he can do that, he will be ok in the short to medium term. Gerrard hasn't seemed to grasp that. The Mings thing was such a terrible move. Eddie has kept wor Jamaal as Captain and speaks highly of him... he probably gives him too many PL minutes.. but the respect is there and Lascelles has responded well. Keeping a key figure in the dressing room onside. From what i've read - Tuchel lost the dressing room by being extremely distant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 45 minutes ago, Jaqen said: Lampard has made Everton difficult to beat. They look quite solid defensively and the midfield three looks well balanced and athletic. Converting Iwobi and getting those performances out of him has been quite impressive I think. Front 3 is quite weak but it's a solid foundation to build on. They aren't a hoofball team like Dyche I don't think. Both the goals the conceded against Man U was them trying to play through them and getting caught in possession. Gerrard always seemed like a player that didn't really like tactics, pretty sure he said Rafa made him a better all round player but he hated that side of the game under him. Having to work on systems, positioning and tactics. Because he could win a game from playing a 50 yard inch perfect pass into Torres or bang one in from 30 yards when they needed a winner it seems like he's expecting players he's managing to be able to do the same and then being frustrated they aren't. Seems to have a a lot of the same traits as Roy Keane does which doesn't usually translate into a good manager. I agree with most of this. He's not a hoofball manager true but I don't think he has much of a plan as to how to attack either. Agree with your assessment of Gerrard as a player tactically. Lampard played in better teams but also learnt how to play a team role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Klopp's an utter cunt like. His presser is on live and he's coming across about as obnoxious as it's possible to get Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 The absolute fuck is this story about one goal at Wigan being 2 inches higher than the other at the weekend? Fucking ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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