Kid Icarus Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 Just now, Jonas said: Another one for the Bruce worse than Pardew count. Multiple reasons when I think about it. Bruce is far lazier, hides his c*ntliness with a nice guy alibi where Pardew is what he is, Pardew didn't shaft a club to come here and could even claim to be ignorant of Ashley's intentions whereas Bruce knew and was warned but wanted to slack off for good coin, Pardew wasn't backed by Ashley - Bruce was. Then in fairness I have Big Sam worse than Pardew and Souness running him close. He did however shaft Chris Hughton and he absolutely was backed by Ashley like (at least compared to Rafa and Hughton) - he had the best Ashley squad by quite some distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 Pardew couldn’t claim to be ignorant like, everyone knew who Ashley was as soon as Keegan went and the season that followed. The way Ashley did Hughton in showed everyone that the only person Ashley wanted was a “yes man”. Pardew was that man his whole time here while being a two-faced shit. The man is a narcissistic crook. It just so happens that Bruce is of a similar ilk but somehow an even more pathetic specimen who I think is happy to sink to even greater lows for money and some limelight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 I hate Pardew, but hate Bruce more. I think a part of it was I was sucked in again by Benitez and thought him staying would have maybe shown Ashley was going to at least try. When he replaced him with Bruce though, it was just the final bit of evidence needed to show we weren't bothered as a club, and Bruce was just a cunt from day one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 Bruce was miles worse than Pardew and is easily the biggest wanker I’ve had the misfortune of having as our manager! Utter twat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 McClaren was shit and probably same level as Bruce, but I didn't hate him. Didn't seem a twat, just incompetent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 9 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: McClaren was shit and probably same level as Bruce, but I didn't hate him. Didn't seem a twat, just incompetent. He at least tried to play a decent style of football too, it was just brittle and poorly implemented. Bruce was turgid as fuck constantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 We really are comparing ISIS execution preferences when talking about these horrid cunts (McClaren excluded) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 Even if Bruce was a half decent manager I’d still have wanted shot of him due to the lack of respect he had for the fan base and club as a whole. Leant into negative stereotypes to defend himself at the slightest amount of criticism and then complained that no one liked him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 Bruce is far, far worse than Pardz like. Claims he's a Toon fan, a Geordie, a hard working pro, you name it, if it's positive, he's it. Yet he's a horrible, lazy, mercenary bastard and a filthy rich failure of a manager too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 3 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Pardew was arguably more damaging off the pitch than on it. Imo no one did more to turn this fanbase into a bunch of - and I hate to use the word because it's generally shite, but - cucks watching on as Mike Ashley fucked it than Alan Pardew. He was an expert at selling failure as some kind of promised land. The fact there are still people who don't think he was that bad, had his hands tied, and so on, shows how good he was at it and how unbelievably gullible a lot of our lot are. The bloke was a disease. Nailed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 Bruce was more overtly unlikeable. By the time Bruce was appointed though, the club was already a shell. Pardew played such a big part in the systematic lowering of expectations, giving credence to the idea it's OK not to compete, openly putting players up for sale, kissing Ashley's arse at any given opportunity. The list goes on. It was during his tenure I realised I'd lost my football club as I knew it and it was it wasn't coming back. I find people giving him such an easy ride difficult to comprehend. The bloke is a 24 carat cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted March 19, 2024 Share Posted March 19, 2024 8 hours ago, TK-421 said: I'm sure he would like to think that, but the stats say otherwise. Those stats flatter him too. Maybe my brain has scrambled the memories. But at the time it felt like we had some incredible luck and Jammy wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 I agree with those that say Bruce is definitely worse than Pardew. However, can't get on board with anyone trying to suggest Pardew wasn't that bad. He was, he just happens to be behind a bloke that was much worse. I think time is a bit of a healer in that sense and his time seems far away whereas Bruce's stench is still being seen. And I'm probably about to contradict myself and give Pardew a bit of a pass, his slight redeeming qualities is that he hasn't slagged us off since and didn't use his media pals to create a false narrative around us. Bruce was shit the way he joined us, whilst he was here and then since he left starting with that piece by Luke Edwards which created a media pile on making us out to be like some utter savages. I can't see time being a healer where Bruce is concerned, will forever remain a scumbag and if anything, the disdain for him grows with every podcast/interview he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 Bruce came on some vanity trip with his sights set on some sort of local hero ambition, he left a money grabbing destructive influence that sold his "people" down the river for the benefit of "Mike" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, The Prophet said: Bruce was more overtly unlikeable. By the time Bruce was appointed though, the club was already a shell. Pardew played such a big part in the systematic lowering of expectations, giving credence to the idea it's OK not to compete, openly putting players up for sale, kissing Ashley's arse at any given opportunity. The list goes on. It was during his tenure I realised I'd lost my football club as I knew it and it was it wasn't coming back. I find people giving him such an easy ride difficult to comprehend. The bloke is a 24 carat cunt. Fully agree. I think some may have softened because he’s been very complimentary about the fans and club and defended us in some situations (genuine or not). Pardew was a cunt but never reached the same levels as Bruce amazingly. Bruce’s continued pathetic stance at every opportunity with anyone who will listen (I’d imagine with talksport this week but couldn’t give two fucks what he’s said) cements him as Uber cunt. Useless manager and utter wanker. Edited March 20, 2024 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 Pardon single handedly got us into Europe and nearly won us a European cup too. He's almost up there with Joe Harvey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 (edited) https://www.facebook.com/share/p/UgNLadeAcG5jTHJG/ 3 years today. Never forget! Edited March 20, 2024 by mofo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanegg Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 It’s 50/50 for me. As someone else said, Pardew was the one who really made me fall out of love with the club. The bad decisions, excuses etc just built up over time and made me think fuck this. The 2011/12 season where we got 5th, we played some amazing football, but also rode our luck a lot. So many games (Fulham and Swansea are ringing a bell, might be wrong) where it actually made me believe in some sort of god the luck we were having. The end of that season and seasons after showed his true colours. Ashley did not help at all of course. Bruce was terrible, but I’d already lost a lot of care for the club at the time, so I was nowhere near as invested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 In an alternative hell-scape, I wonder what would have happened if Bruce had Pardew's squad, and vice versa. I'd imagine Bruce would have done worse with the squad, but then again there's a chance he'd not have have thrown Ben Arfa under the bus, by just chucking him the ball and asking for "a little bit of magic". Before swapping him for Hamza Choudhury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 Bruce by a mile for me as most despised NUFC manager. His constant belittling of NUFC, constant praise for Ashley, constant digs at Rafa (not forgetting his disgusting dig at Howe), constant digs at our fans and social media, using his bellend of a son to fire shots at us non-stop, getting his media mates to hammer our fanbase and that’s without mentioning the utter shite he served up on the pitch. The last five months under Rafa, we were a joy to watch and had a solid defence. We’d have probably been relegated if it wasn’t for Dubravka and Maxi in 19-20 and Wilson and Willock in 20-21. He’d have been gone well before he was finally binned if Covid hadn’t of appeared. No way he’d have survived at SJP with his turgid, shite football and his digs at our fans (albeit he probably would have bottled saying them if we were in the ground still). TOSSER! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 (edited) Bruce always knew exactly what was going on and was totally complicit in what went on. He has never been a friend to Newcastle United. CUNT! Edited March 20, 2024 by Big Geordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Paully said: Bruce by a mile for me as most despised NUFC manager. His constant belittling of NUFC, constant praise for Ashley, constant digs at Rafa (not forgetting his disgusting dig at Howe), constant digs at our fans and social media, using his bellend of a son to fire shots at us non-stop, getting his media mates to hammer our fanbase and that’s without mentioning the utter shite he served up on the pitch. The last five months under Rafa, we were a joy to watch and had a solid defence. We’d have probably been relegated if it wasn’t for Dubravka and Maxi in 19-20 and Wilson and Willock in 20-21. He’d have been gone well before he was finally binned if Covid hadn’t of appeared. No way he’d have survived at SJP with his turgid, shite football and his digs at our fans (albeit he probably would have bottled saying them if we were in the ground still). TOSSER! It all comes to something when we even agree with the mackems about something. His excuse then? Because he wasn't from Sunderland. His excuse with us? Because he wasn't from Spain. Edited March 20, 2024 by Abacus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 We are effectively arguing what our least worst flavour of shit is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 You can tell it's international break time when Pardew vs Bruce is wheeled out again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 I’ve actually grown to like Pardew since he stopped managing us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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