buzza Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Thought murphy, krafth and burn weren't so good today (krafth was same level i.e. very normal). Big Joe, Fraser and schar were excellent. All round, we completely dominated them, only half chances for them at best. Really solid with both ASM and Manquillo to come back in... Top form! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Was quite busy at work while the game was on, was absolutely certain VAR was looking for a reason to send Targett off. Was fuming when I saw the red card, as I hadn't seen the incident properly and thought it was given against Targett for a tackle from behind or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Nobody said: Was quite busy at work while the game was on, was absolutely certain VAR was looking for a reason to send Targett off. Was fuming when I saw the red card, as I hadn't seen the incident properly and thought it was given against Targett for a tackle from behind or something Same here, my river froze, then jumped and froze again literally on Dean reaching to his back pocket, then we have a free kick, I'm thinking someone must've said something but who ? I ended up with the radio match commentary on, SSN, a river and jumping i nto this place.......and women say men cant multi task! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nobody said: Was quite busy at work while the game was on, was absolutely certain VAR was looking for a reason to send Targett off. Was fuming when I saw the red card, as I hadn't seen the incident properly and thought it was given against Targett for a tackle from behind or something I'll be honest, given the fact that they called the foul on Newcastle I thought Targett was off too. Blew my mind when they lost a man ala Clark against Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 minute ago, McDog said: I'll be honest, given the fact that they called the foul on Newcastle I thought Targett was off too. Blew my mind when they lost a man ala Clark against Norwich. Hey, that was Kieran Clarke's finest moment, he obviously saw Joes midfield capabilities but they werent being utilised. "How do I force this ?" thinks Kieran, "if I get sent off right now I bet they'll drop Joe into the middle...oh well, here goes" and he was right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, The Butcher said: Brentford were really unlucky with the red. The player just tried to shield the ball and caught Targett in the process. Nowt malicious in it, but I can see why Dean's given it. If you run someone over by accident, you still ran them over... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, The Butcher said: Brentford were really unlucky with the red. The player just tried to shield the ball and caught Targett in the process. Nowt malicious in it, but I can see why Dean's given it. disagree with the "shielding" description. challenge gets worse the more you see it. the guy actually jumps up and is completely off the ground before coming down on targett's leg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, The Butcher said: Brentford were really unlucky with the red. The player just tried to shield the ball and caught Targett in the process. Nowt malicious in it, but I can see why Dean's given it. I don't think there was any intent, but it doesn't mean it wasn't reckless as fuck. He could've killed him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, madras said: Hey, that was Kieran Clarke's finest moment, he obviously saw Joes midfield capabilities but they werent being utilised. "How do I force this ?" thinks Kieran, "if I get sent off right now I bet they'll drop Joe into the middle...oh well, here goes" and he was right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, NEEJ said: Sorry, Ciaran. To be honest I struggle not to call him Clarke Carlisle for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, madras said: Sorry, Ciaran. To be honest I struggle not to call him Clarke Carlisle for some reason. He an Irish lad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Deffo red card with the benefit of replay, although hard to spot at first. The team responded brilliantly to a difficult 10 man formation and the sending off seemed to to give the Bees a buzz, especially with Toney and Erickson in wait to come on. They played better with 10 than 11. But we were professional, did what we had to do and got the 3 points (without trying too hard!) TBF I think we would have won 11 against 11. Finally got a team we can be proud of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 If it was Dasilva trying to shield the ball, then he must be a shit footballer, to be honest. The ball was nowhere near, and the slow motion replay looked damning as anything. Made me think of De Jong on Ben Arfa...the way that Targett just bandaged his leg up and then later helped set up the goal endeared him so much more to me. A proper soldier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2nd in the last 5 games form table Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 I saw someone somewhere say the only reason we're winning is because we've not been up against any form teams. That's up there with 'you've only won because the other team lost' level logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, elbee909 said: I saw someone somewhere say the only reason we're winning is because we've not been up against any form teams. That's up there with 'you've only won because the other team lost' level logic. Villa were W5 D2 L4, 17 points from 11 games, before we beat them. Most pundits saw that game as an away win and were hyping Stevie G. Leeds were coming off straight wins against West Ham and Burnley, scoring three in each. Their form since we beat them? P6 W0 D1 L5. We have had a run of easy fixtures, but its been with relegation pressure. As everyone said on January 1st, the fixtures meant any players bought in the window would have to slot in immediately for would be our best remaining chances to accumulate points. Howe and the club deserve massive credit for the way this has happened so smoothly. It was not a given! Now the relegation pressure has waned, it'll be good to see us play Southampton, a proper form team, to see how far we have come. My thoughts are definitely turning to next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 3 hours ago, elbee909 said: I saw someone somewhere say the only reason we're winning is because we've not been up against any form teams. That's up there with 'you've only won because the other team lost' level logic. Apparently we've not lost against any of the bottom 8, bit like with Rafa. We can't play the form team as we are the form team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) In short we're winning because Howe has drummed a clear gameplan of pressing from the front and playing out from the back, and increased the energy levels and application from the squad up to insane levels from what they were. That's pretty clear to anyone watching us even in small doses. The people claiming it's money or anything else either know fuck all about the sport or are letting their intense jelousy rule their lives. Edited February 27, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 The main thing is how not nervy the whole thing was. The last time I felt so unconcerned about a game was when Bruce was manager and I didn’t care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: In short we're winning because Howe has drummed a clear gameplan of pressing from the front and playing out from the back, and increased the energy levels and application from the squad up to insane levels from what they were. That's pretty clear to anyone watching us even in small doses. The people claiming it's money or anything else either know fuck all about the sport or are letting their intense jelousy rule their lives. It is both tbf. We aren't pressing high or playing out from the back with a back 4 of Murphy, Lascelles, Clark and Ritchie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Targett is on loan and Burn wasn't much more than £10m. We're doing it with Shelvey, Joelinton and Ryan Fraser. Our £40m signing hasn't even played a half of football and we've continued on the same since Trippier has been out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Still buzzing over the win. When was the last time our opponents got an early red card against us? Figueroa when we beat Wigan 3-0 in 2012? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 How targett as walked away from that challenge without serious injury is a miracle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, BergenMagpie said: Still buzzing over the win. When was the last time our opponents got an early red card against us? Figueroa when we beat Wigan 3-0 in 2012? Huddersfield? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) Targett, Burn and Wood have addressed gaps in the squad and improved us, but they’re still playing alongside 8 players who were already here. 8 players who were viewed as being not PL standard the other side of Christmas. The turnaround is really impressive, and that’s all on Howe. Just take the defence. We’ve been told for years - even by Benitez - we can’t play a back four. Bruce spent two seasons complaining they couldn’t do it. Yes, we’ve added a couple of players but not at great cost and at no point did I believe Schar and Krafth could do the job they managed yesterday, or at West Ham last week. I’ve no doubt that if Burn or Targett do get injured that Lascelles and Dummett could come in and do a decent job too. The midfield went from a porous mess to being one of our strongest areas, to the point Bruno is still sitting on the bench. I don’t think Howe is a managerial mastermind (not yet anyway) but fuck me is it nice to have someone in charge who knows what he’s doing on the training ground, on the touch line and has the nous to implement it. A little bit of competence gets you a long way. Edited February 27, 2022 by christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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