Wullie Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I presume they'll be asking for all the home games to be behind closed doors too since away fans can't get tickets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 could easily just allow Chelsea to give tickets away for free or sell tickets, merch, food & bev with 100% of all sales going into escrow or an already selected charity outside of the club. Food banks, shelters, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Say if there were peace accord signed today, do the sanctions just get scrapped ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Fucking victim playing wankers, why should the Boro fans have to miss out? hope the F.A tell them where to stick that utterly absurd request. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bizza said: Fucking victim playing wankers, why should the Boro fans have to miss out? hope the F.A tell them where to stick that utterly absurd request. The sports media have completely bought into / pushed that narrative though, 'the fans and staff are innocent victims', 'isn't Tuchel so noble for saying he'll drive a minibus if he needs to' etc. All the while seemingly expecting us to stop supporting our club and our manager to quit because we're owned by the sovereign wealth fund of a nation that our government is a firm ally of. Edited March 15, 2022 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 35 minutes ago, 54 said: "Sporting integrity" They aren't sporting and they have no integrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 What an absolutely bizarre request. Why should Boro suffer from Chelsea's sanctions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Have to be impressed with the absolute balls to even suggest such a ridiculous thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 That's embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Presumably just some kind of pressure tactic to try and get some concessions out of the government in terms of being allowed to sell tickets. Absolutely horrific look for them though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Statement threatening Boro? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Chelsea, wherever they may be, minds are a mess cos they vote Tory... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, madras said: Say if there were peace accord signed today, do the sanctions just get scrapped ? I guess it would depend on the settlement. If Ukraine was in favour of the settlement and Russia withdrew then sanctions would be lifted. Historically, the aim of sanctions is not to punish countries, though that is a byproduct, but rather to get countries to change their actions. If they were kept in place after a settlement then effectively we would be saying they will only be lifted once Putin is removed. The West might insist on Russia signing an agreement promising to demilitarise their European borders or something similar but that would be a pretext for keeping them in place. Similar to WMD and Iraq where the ultimate aim was to remove Saddam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, macphisto said: I guess it would depend on the settlement. If Ukraine was in favour of the settlement and Russia withdrew then sanctions would be lifted. Historically, the aim of sanctions is not to punish countries, though that is a byproduct, but rather to get countries to change their actions. If they were kept in place after a settlement then effectively we would be saying they will only be lifted once Putin is removed. The West might insist on Russia signing an agreement promising to demilitarise their European borders or something similar but that would be a pretext for keeping them in place. Similar to WMD and Iraq where the ultimate aim was to remove Saddam. Can't see much of that happening in the event of a settlement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Hate the term "behind doors", makes it sound like they're playing the match in a school gym when it's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, madras said: Can't see much of that happening in the event of a settlement. What, sanctions staying in place? Personally I think they would be lifted fairly quickly. A lot of European countries were quite reluctant to have heavy sanctions when Russia initially invaded Ukraine. Those countries might have changed their stance since then but I doubt it. Or rather their resolve isn't too strong. Edited March 15, 2022 by macphisto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Chelsea should be ashamed they even thought about the idea, let alone went ahead and petitioned for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, macphisto said: What, sanctions staying in place? Personally I think they would be lifted fairly quickly. A lot of European countries were quite reluctant to have heavy sanctions when Russia initially invaded Ukraine. Those countries might have changed their stance since then but I doubt it. No, no, the terms you described, Putin removed etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 You’ve sanctioned Abramovic, don’t punish the fans man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 WHY PUNISH THE FANS, WE NEVER BENEFITTED FROM ABRAMOVICH'S OWNERSHIP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 hours ago, HTT II said: I have friends originally from SA and other Arab nations and when it comes to this kind of stuff, making say NUFC the biggest and most successful club in the world over buying an already (one of the) biggest and most successful club’s and just maintaining that is considered almost like a failure or rather like buying a second hand car when you can afford a new one. Sorry, I'm too thick to work out which way round this is - do you mean buying Chelsea would be seen as buying a second-hand car because someone else has already made them big, or buying a smaller club is like buying a second hand car because if you were minted you'd have bought Chelsea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, madras said: No, no, the terms you described, Putin removed etc. Sadly either do I... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Quote We are aware of Chelsea's request to have Saturday's Emirates FA Cup sixth round tie played behind closed doors and find their suggestion both bizarre and without any merit whatsoever. All concerned are well aware of the reasons Chelsea have been sanctioned and that this has nothing to do with Middlesbrough Football Club. To suggest as result that MFC and our fans should be penalised is not only grossly unfair but without any foundation. Given the reasons for these sanctions, for Chelsea to seek to invoke sporting "integrity" as reason for the game being played behind closed doors is ironic in the extreme. We currently await formal notification from the FA of the next steps but rest assured MFC will resist Chelsea's actions in the strongest terms. https://www.mfc.co.uk/news/a-statement-from-middlesbrough-fc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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