Lush Vlad Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Pata said: Sometimes I wonder why footballers try to head the ball when it's literally there on the grass. Use your fucking foot, it's in the name of the game. Feel sorry for him but he really fucked up. Personally thought he misjudged the flight/bounce or Salah was just getting there first because of his pace, anyway. I don’t think there was ever really a chance to get a foot to it and he thought ‘fuck it. I’ve come out this far’ and then launched himself at it for a diving header. Would have been better off trying to somehow show him wide and then try and get back. But it’s all split second decisions at breakneck speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stifler said: Handball isn’t a red card offence though. The sending off comes down to him denying a goal scoring opportunity and there is an argument that a defender is getting back and the attacker still has to control the ball and change it’s direction before taking a shot. Mate. Aye a defender or two are on their way back, but there'd be no goalkeeper. If he gets the shot away quickly it's an open goal without even the defenders. A one-on-one with a goalie is itself considered a goalscoring opportunity - this is easier than that. It's a clear goalscoring opportunity. Edited February 19, 2023 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 The game ban in circumstances like this feels overly harsh like. He and we were already punished with the red card, it feels overly harsh that he'll miss a cup final for a mistake, as opposed to say endangering an opponent or something. Obviously the rules are the rules and you have to suck it up, but it does feel really shan, as Lineker pointed out on MOTD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: Mate. Aye a defender or two are on their way back, but there'd be no goalkeeper. If he gets the shot away quickly it's an open goal without even the defenders. A one-on-one with a goalie is itself considered a goalscoring opportunity - this is easier than that. It's a clear goalscoring opportunity. Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone here, but isn't that pass from Allison heading towards the corner flag? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone here, but isn't that pass from Allison heading towards the corner flag? It's bending wide but Salah's getting it before the 18 yard line (I mean Pope is very close to Salah when he managed to touch it, albeit with his hand). Wide enough that if Pope had just stayed in goal Salah prob would've had to beat a defender or two and Pope. But it's become a significantly bigger opportunity by the time Pope's handled it. Edited February 19, 2023 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: The game ban in circumstances like this feels overly harsh like. He and we were already punished with the red card, it feels overly harsh that he'll miss a cup final for a mistake, as opposed to say endangering an opponent or something. Obviously the rules are the rules and you have to suck it up, but it does feel really shan, as Lineker pointed out on MOTD. You pretty much have to have a suspension though because otherwise a red card in say the 90th minute essentially carries no punishment. You could maybe say if it's in the first half no suspension needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Cf said: You pretty much have to have a suspension though because otherwise a red card in say the 90th minute essentially carries no punishment. You could maybe say if it's in the first half no suspension needed. I agree, it's the missing of a final that really sets it apart though. If Pope just missed Man City away it wouldn't feel harsh, yet if Joelinton had picked up a yellow yesterday he'd have a two match ban, but only in the league and not miss the final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 It’s a red card all day long Super unlucky to misjudge the bounce and head the ball against the surface He then totally panics - and the rest is history Red card all day long. His brother (Josh pope) was also sent off yesterday ! (goalkeeper). Strange world mildenhall town Fc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Isn't a straight red an automatic 3 match ban? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, jackyboy said: Isn't a straight red an automatic 3 match ban? No Edited February 19, 2023 by JonBez comesock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Nah, only for violent conduct/serious foul play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: It’s a red card all day long Super unlucky to misjudge the bounce and head the ball against the surface He then totally panics - and the rest is history Red card all day long. His brother (Josh pope) was also sent off yesterday ! (goalkeeper). Strange world mildenhall town Fc To be fair, it wasn’t unlucky. He actually closes his eyes for the header. Pretty much the only thing he’s done wrong for us and that’s his punishment. He must be distraught. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 I just hope it doesn't knock his confidence because the way we play, him sweeping up to a good standard is critical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) The entire card system needs remodelling tbh, the governing bodies encroach onto the sport every year with updates that rarely benefit the entertainment side of the sport, yet have left in tact a punishment system which makes no sense. If they're not ruining games as a spectacle they're unnecessarily destroying a blokes life long dream to play in a cup final Just give the opposing team a goal for shit like this and cynical last man fouls. No need for anything else. Same for 2 yellows. Dangerous challenges give the opposition a goal and force the fouling player to be substituted (if no subs left they go down to 10). 1 game ban that can be extended in serious circumstances of violent misconduct. Edited February 19, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: Yes No. There are automatic one and three game suspensions depending on the nature of the offence. Of course, this can be extended even further depending on context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: Yes No, depends on the offence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: The entire card system needs remodelling tbh, the governing bodies encroach onto the sport every year with updates that rarely benefit the entertainment side of the sport, yet have left in tact a punishment system which makes no sense. If they're not ruining games as a spectacle they're unnecessarily destroying a blokes life long dream to play in a cup final Just give the opposing team a goal for shit like this and cynical last man fouls. No need for anything else. Same for 2 yellows. Dangerous challenges give the opposition a goal and force the fouling player to be substituted (if no subs left they go down to 10). 1 game ban that can be extended in serious circumstances of violent misconduct. Not sure about all of that and find it hard to see them doing anything that involves goals without the ball going in the net- but these kinds of incidents should at least be a penalty. this happens at the end of the game outside the box and the fouled team get almost no benefit - like us v Brighton last season. Probably other teams get more benefit by the player being suspended. then you do get a penalty for a harmless ball hitting an outstretched arm. It’s all out of proportion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Would appealing the decision delay it long enough for Pope to be available for the final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 All problems have solutions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, TotalWar said: Just watched the highlights again. I note that the reason Pope ended up in that no mans land, and having to make a challenge on Salah was his starting position, which he takes up whenever we have a set piece around the opponent’s box, of 30 yards from our goal. As Allison catches, then kicks it, Pope begins to retreat, realises he isnt going to make it and decides to go for the ball instead. If he had kept racing back toward his goal he probably wouldnt have made it, as he would have had to turn his back to Salah. I do wonder though, why we didnt have anyone closer to Salah, baring in mind his pace etc, its not as if it was a corner. closest man when free kick went in was Longstaff I think ? *Edit, im talking complete bollocks Edited February 19, 2023 by RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, JonBez comesock said: Yes It's not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Hehehe. Villiams... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Didn't realise Darlow hasn't played a minute for Hull either. What a shitshow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 hours ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: All problems have solutions Ahem, Meet our academy keeper Mick Hope, its honestly not Nick Pope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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