The College Dropout Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Ramsdale on loan would be great. Not for a permanent signing imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Signing De Gea until the end of the season seems like a no-brainer if he would come. He's still a great shot stopper and he isn't any worse on the ball than Pope, few months younger than Dubravka too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Ramsdale on loan would be great. Not for a permanent signing imo. I don't think there's any way Arsenal loan us a keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 De Gea, Ramsdale, Mendy... wtf, are we just naming goal keepers that are erratic and unpredictable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Dubravka is a decent backup for emergencies, not so sure if he's good enough to be the keeper for a a team with top 4 aspirations for 5 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, OCK said: De Gea, Ramsdale, Mendy... wtf, are we just naming goal keepers that are erratic and unpredictable? I can’t get over Mendy, mind. He’s an absolute clown. Dubravka isn’t great but at least he’s generally solid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 32 minutes ago, Pata said: I don't think there's any way Arsenal loan us a keeper. Yeh same. Unless he kicks up a fuss. Let’s see how Dubs does in these 7 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Pata said: Signing De Gea until the end of the season seems like a no-brainer if he would come. He's still a great shot stopper and he isn't any worse on the ball than Pope, few months younger than Dubravka too. He was on £350k a week at Man U. How much would he take to come here? A lot more than what Pope's on I'd imagine. Dubravka is far from perfect but he's in the top 5 of reserve keepers in the PL in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Beth said: He was on £350k a week at Man U. How much would he take to come here? A lot more than what Pope's on I'd imagine. Dubravka is far from perfect but he's in the top 5 of reserve keepers in the PL in my opinion. Yes, that would make the most sense and he is a PL quality keeper. Edit: For clarity, going with Dubs makes perfect sense. Edited December 5, 2023 by McDog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Beth said: He was on £350k a week at Man U. How much would he take to come here? A lot more than what Pope's on I'd imagine. Dubravka is far from perfect but he's in the top 5 of reserve keepers in the PL in my opinion. If he wants to play, I could see him signing for something like £150k a week which wouldn't be that bad for half a season. He's only 33, having a good half season with us would help him to get another multi-year contract somewhere. Everything obviously depends on his motivation, he's set for life and could easily just retire but if he still has the hunger, a smaller wage with a top team like us would make a ton of sense for both us and him. IMO the fact that he hasn't signed a big money deal to some Saudi team indicates that he's been waiting for an opening somewhere and still wants to play at high level (or he's just ready to retire ). I'm alright giving Dubravka games now to show he can be relied upon but if he's shaky DDG would be a perfect short term solution without having to pay a fee and him failing to get a new deal anywhere works in our favour on his wage demands. @Froggy still rated him during last season IIRC. Edited December 5, 2023 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pata said: If he wants to play, I could see him signing for something like £150k a week which wouldn't be that bad for half a season. He's only 33, having a good half season with us would help him to get another multi-year contract somewhere. Everything obviously depends on his motivation, he's set for life and could easily just retire but if he still has the hunger, a smaller wage with a top team like us would make a ton of sense for both us and him. IMO the fact that he hasn't signed a big money deal to some Saudi team indicates that he's been waiting for an opening somewhere and still wants to play at high level (or he's just ready to retire ). I'm alright giving Dubravka games now to show he can be relied upon but if he's shaky DDG would be a perfect short term solution without having to pay a fee and him failing to get a new deal anywhere works in our favour on his wage demands. @Froggy still rated him during last season IIRC. We won’t be paying him anything close to those figures. He was living it up at Man United but the only place he will command such wages is Saudi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I honestly don't think it would be that bad for a six month deal and wouldn't cause turmoil in the dressing room due to the emergency nature of it. I don't really care if Dubravka, Karius or Gillespie are pissed about it, Dubs already had his moment when he wanted to leave to Man Utd and the others never expect to see any match action outside of the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Feel like de Gea is a clear violation of the no cunts policy. I'm happy to see the session out with Dubs and Karius. TBH I might try Karius ahead of Dubs, but that's probably just meddling for shits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 We've had 2 and 3 keepers on our bench for at least a month now. It would be extremely harsh on them if we were to bring in a short term replacement for Pope. If we did that, I wouldn't blame either of them if they would try to force themselves out of the club in January. If that is how low they were rated, you've got to ask questions of the management team why we even bothered keeping on Dubravka and extending the contract with Karius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I'm hoping that these rumours of replacements are just agents sniffing out a possible chance for their clients. I'm quite happy for Dubs to be given a solid chance to prove himself. I think he has the character to do it. Karius as the number two bothers me more. but we may just have to lump it until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 We have 7 games between now and the window opening I think, that’s a fair run of games for Dubs to prove he is good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, Conjo said: We've had 2 and 3 keepers on our bench for at least a month now. It would be extremely harsh on them if we were to bring in a short term replacement for Pope. If we did that, I wouldn't blame either of them if they would try to force themselves out of the club in January. If that is how low they were rated, you've got to ask questions of the management team why we even bothered keeping on Dubravka and extending the contract with Karius. It may be harsh on them, but we've had 2/3 keepers on the bench purely to make a point of injuries. If it continues I'd rather have DeGea sitting on our bench than Gillespie, as I do agree that Dubs deserves his chance and has been mostly reliable in his whole time here. I'd happily wager most on here have seen more of de gea playing than either karius or gillespie. Regardless...this lot seem to generally know what they're doing with transfers. The only really major balls up coming with Tonali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I easily take De Gea for 6 months. Dubs have some games untill the window open to make the place his, and its up to him to lose the place. De Gea kept 17 clean sheets in the Premier League and got the Premier League Golden Glove last season. So he cant be all that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 We've got a great goal keeping team tbh, have like 3 keepers I'd be happy enough to see start. I'd rather strengthen elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I don't think there's much in the DDG rumours at present. We'll see how Dubravka goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Howe is all about the team spirit and chemistry which he has carefully cultivated. I don't see him signing a stop-gap coming in as a mercenary. Dubravka is an OK Premier League keeper who knows the group and has trained with them week in week out. Quite a few questioned the signing of Pope when we already had Dubravka. De Gea has a higher ceiling of course, but would he settle straight in immediately with a defence he's never trained with? Maybe, but there's just as much risk of disruption there. I think we'll run with it, providing Dubravka doesn't have a shocker December. The main concern with Dubravka was always more his injuries than his ability. Pope commands the box better but Dubravka is better with the ball at his feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 25th minute mark, they get onto Popes injury and Ramsdale etc. I thought this was outstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, STM said: 25th minute mark, they get onto Popes injury and Ramsdale etc. I thought this was outstanding. “If you’re not going to out work Newcastle at St James’ Park, you’re getting beat” ?????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 13 hours ago, Beth said: He was on £350k a week at Man U. How much would he take to come here? A lot more than what Pope's on I'd imagine. Dubravka is far from perfect but he's in the top 5 of reserve keepers in the PL in my opinion. He has not played for a while no? Would take him a while to get up to speed. Really not sure on him personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 7 games until the window opens, so plenty of time to see how Dubs is getting on. I would personally stick with what we have unless he is having a howler. Somehow I think he will really want to step up and prove himself again. The whole team is really playing for each other, so think he will give a good account of himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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