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He was a really good keeper for us for a couple of seasons, but his form massively fell off a cliff this year. The number of times he’s charged out of his area to miss the ball completely is ridiculous. 
 

I’ll always be appreciative of that save vs Jones in the cup final. If that goes in then I’m not convinced we win the cup…

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30 minutes ago, NSG said:

He was a really good keeper for us for a couple of seasons, but his form massively fell off a cliff this year. The number of times he’s charged out of his area to miss the ball completely is ridiculous. 
 

I’ll always be appreciative of that save vs Jones in the cup final. If that goes in then I’m not convinced we win the cup…

Was one of the main reasons we finished 4th the year we did, he was one of the best goalkeepers in the league that season. Started the next season really well but then got a bad injury against Man United and has never been the same since. 

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He was the best shot stopper in the league during his early spell with us, and easily the best at one-on-ones, but Nut’s timeline pretty much nails it. If we can get £5M for him, he’s been yet another immense signing and incredible value for money.

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7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Love Pope. Legend to me.   Best I’ve seen for us at his best. 
 

But my boy is finished.  

He was great for a couple of seasons but for constistency over time he's nowhere near Shay Given for me.

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9 minutes ago, Collage said:

He was great for a couple of seasons but for constistency over time he's nowhere near Shay Given for me.

Better than Given for me - like Given he has his flaws (distribution being their shared weakness - my old seat in the Leazes put me head-height with Given and in line with the edge of the six yard box, Christ could that lad shank a goal kick) but I’d take Pope ahead of Given if I was asked to name a keeper.  I can of course see the argument the other way. 

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15 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Better than Given for me - like Given he has his flaws (distribution being their shared weakness - my old seat in the Leazes put me head-height with Given and in line with the edge of the six yard box, Christ could that lad shank a goal kick) but I’d take Pope ahead of Given if I was asked to name a keeper.  I can of course see the argument the other way. 

Ball distribution wasn't as important for a keeper back then, Given would have struggled in todays football obviously. I just think Given maintained roughly the same high level for easily 5+ seasons.

 

 

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Just now, Collage said:

Ball distribution wasn't as important for a keeper back then, Given would have struggled in todays football obviously. I just think Given maintaned roughly the same high level for easily 5+ seasons.

Yeah, it definitely seemed to be referred to far less.  100% can accept anyone preferring Given to Pope, it’s just Pope edges it for me.  

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6 hours ago, NSG said:

He was a really good keeper for us for a couple of seasons, but his form massively fell off a cliff this year. The number of times he’s charged out of his area to miss the ball completely is ridiculous. 
 

I’ll always be appreciative of that save vs Jones in the cup final. If that goes in then I’m not convinced we win the cup…

Yeah that save will always come to mind. Traumatises me just imagining that went in. 

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2 hours ago, duo said:

It's not so much that Pope is a bad keeper - it's more the game has evolved to what role a keeper is expected to play in team tactics.  Pope just has shown he's unable to adapt.

 

More and more errors are creeping into his game mind.

 

Feels as though he's never been the same since that shoulder injury.

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On 06/06/2026 at 10:02, Collage said:

He was great for a couple of seasons but for constistency over time he's nowhere near Shay Given for me.

For me - Pope is just better. If Pope was born in 1976 he has 50+ England caps and is considered a level above Given. 
 

Peak shot stopping I stil prefer Pope. Command of box and presence easily Pope.  Penalty saving Pope.  Distribution equally as bad.   

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10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

For me - Pope is just better. If Pope was born in 1976 he has 50+ England caps and is considered a level above Given. 
 

Peak shot stopping I stil prefer Pope. Command of box and presence easily Pope.  Penalty saving Pope.  Distribution equally as bad.   

 

On the flip side, if Given was born in 1995 he might have put more effort into kicking, knowing it was such a big part of the game now. His kicking was poor but wasn't much better or worse than most keepers of his day. Pope's is awful for his compared to his peers. 

 

 

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At peak I'd say:

 

Shot-stopping: Shay (just)

Saving long shots: Pope

Fewer howlers: Shay

Command of area & crosses: Pope

Distribution: Shay (just, both poor)

Penalties: Pope

Sweeping: Pope

Injury reliability: Shay

 

Got to think about the context of the era both played in too. Given's kicking was almost as crap as Pope's but the emphasis on it was much lower. Pope also played with a far better defensive unit in front of him, whereas some of Shay's best years he was stuck behind an absolute cowboy outfit.

 

I'm probably giving it to Shay on longevity in our shirt but it's quite close. Both absolutely class at the top of their game and for me quite easily #1 and #2 in the PL era for us (Krul taking the bronze).

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