bobbydazzla Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 The Pope is so good I've turned Catholic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, cubaricho said: The shot of Southgate watching the replays of it and jotting down notes suggests it might not be long now for relegation-zoned Pickford. You realise Southgate picks the same players regardless yeah? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyIsak Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, CPL said: He also played with the likes of Bramble and Boumsong. Pope is playing in arguably our best ever defence in my lifetime. I am 34. Will have to be solid for a couple more seasons or win a trophy before he eclipses Shay Given for me. It's a fair point about Bramble etc, but there were still times when crosses came in and Given just couldn't come and claim the ball to take the pressure off the defence. I'm 33 and i had a ST with my dad at the time, only about 12-15 years old but i can remember, he made some unreal saves but didn't command the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, CPL said: He also played with the likes of Bramble and Boumsong. Pope is playing in arguably our best ever defence in my lifetime. I am 34. Will have to be solid for a couple more seasons or win a trophy before he eclipses Shay Given for me. It still doesn’t sit right with me that people use Bramble as an example of shit defenders in front of Shay. He was a good CB 2 games out of 3 before the inevitable brain fart. He also scored 2 goals that got us into Europe. Andy O’Brien / Caldwell etc were just shit full stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I do think Pope is a better keeper than Given, must admit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: In my lifetime we’ve never had a keeper who could be considered in the top 4 or 5 in the league or higher. And you’d be confident he could start for almost any club as well as England. Think Pope has to be the best. What's funny is when Newcastle were linked with Pope people said "We're gonna sign Burnley's keeper?" I did it too. Thought he was good but never realized how great he actually is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: I do think Pope is a better keeper than Given, must admit. gIVeN iS tHe OnLy IrisH KeEpER wHo DoeSn't KnoW WheRe DuBliN iS m8 Edited January 21, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: I do think Pope is a better keeper than Given, must admit. I’m in those ranks, too. I’m ready with the steel helmet, but I always thought Given had too many weaknesses to be a top keeper. Pope seems to have few weaknesses and the back line look so confident knowing he’s behind them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyIsak Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Pope is better than Given, it's not close really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: It still doesn’t sit right with me that people use Bramble as an example of shit defenders in front of Shay. He was a good CB 2 games out of 3 before the inevitable brain fart. He also scored 2 goals that got us into Europe. Andy O’Brien / Caldwell etc were just shit full stop. You've been trying to argue this point for like 16 years 2 games out of 3 is extremely generous by my remembering of it. 2/3rds of every match maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: It still doesn’t sit right with me that people use Bramble as an example of shit defenders in front of Shay. He was a good CB 2 games out of 3 before the inevitable brain fart. He also scored 2 goals that got us into Europe. Andy O’Brien / Caldwell etc were just shit full stop. Andy O’Brien > Bramble but neither very good 🙂 Bramble’s high’s we’re much higher than O’Brien’s but my god his lows… At least one per game. Woodgate helped massively but he was disaster waiting to happen. O’Brien never had a 9-10/10 game and possibly struggled even to hit a 8/10 but he rarely dropped from 6.5-7.5/10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: You've been trying to argue this point for like 16 years 2 games out of 3 is extremely generous by my remembering of it. 2/3rds of every match maybe I know, need to give it up. Just think he gets a far worse rap than deserved. Easy target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: Andy O’Brien > Bramble but neither very good 🙂 Bramble’s high’s we’re much higher than O’Brien’s but my god his lows… At least one per game. Woodgate helped massively but he was disaster waiting to happen. O’Brien never had a 9-10/10 game and possibly struggled even to hit a 8/10 but he rarely dropped from 6.5-7.5/10. But who put the ball in the makems net ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, LFEE said: Andy O’Brien > Bramble but neither very good 🙂 Bramble’s high’s we’re much higher than O’Brien’s but my god his lows… At least one per game. Woodgate helped massively but he was disaster waiting to happen. O’Brien never had a 9-10/10 game and possibly struggled even to hit a 8/10 but he rarely dropped from 6.5-7.5/10. O’Brien was absolutely shit. Terrible on the ball, slow as fuck, too often and easily made a mug of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) Titus was absolutely class when he wasn't fucking up, but that was far too regular. Would rate him over O'brien though who was pretty consistently mediocre. Given was very good from my memory, over many years and was playing with a worse defence. Pope has been faultless but has to do it over a longer period to look at eclipsing Given (could well do though). Edited January 21, 2023 by Inferior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Just now, Inferior Acuña said: Titus was absolutely class when he wasn't fucking up, but that was far too regular. Would rate him over O'brien though who was pretty consistently mediocre. Given was very good from my memory, over many years and was playing with a worse defence. Pope has to do it over a longer period to look at eclipsing Given (could well do though). Titus was unlucky as well. He could play 99% of a game fantastically but that 1% would be clownlike and cost a goal. He got away with nowt (on the pitch) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyIsak Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, madras said: Titus was unlucky as well. He could play 99% of a game fantastically but that 1% would be clownlike and cost a goal. He got away with nowt (on the pitch) Why is that unlucky, it just not being very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 minute ago, IzzyIsak said: Why is that unlucky, it just not being very good. Just that other players didn't seem to get punished for every mistake. His first half V Arsenal when he got Bergkamp subbed at half time is possibly the best 45min centre half performance I've seen at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) Edited January 21, 2023 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 He's played 7 games since the World Cup and he's only had to face 10 shots on target, 4 of those at Arsenal. We're mean as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, CPL said: Still would pick Pickford ahead of Pope. He has that big game experience and is better with his feet suiting England's style. In addition, I don't think Pope would cope with the extra pressure being England's number one as shown from the last friendly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Runs Botman close for signing of the season. Fucking immense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 How did pope even see that coming what a stop out of this world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 6 hours ago, toon25 said: Care to elaborate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Struggling to think of a better one off save from a NUFC goalkeeper than that from yesterday. Always though Given’s Vs Phillips at the their place was the top one, but yesterday’s was better as the reaction time was next to nil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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