Tsunami Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Is it wrong that I think the lasses should take pot shots as soon as they get 25 yards from goal; decent hit anywhere near the corner/ fairly high up and you’ll score a fair few? That was a fair hit but the keeper may as well not have been there. Not a criticism, just an observation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Is it wrong that I think the lasses should take pot shots as soon as they get 25 yards from goal; decent hit anywhere near the corner/ fairly high up and you’ll score a fair few? That was a fair hit but the keeper may as well not have been there. Not a criticism, just an observation. Pretty much ties in with the size of goals for me. Keepers more often than not look stranded even at full stretch when a ball is struck near the corners. Just an observation and really not wanting to dig out womens football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Spanish manager couldn’t look more Spanish if he was wearing a bull fighting costume and speaking loudly and frenetically in a hushed area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 You can say the same argument for men's handball (not that any of you English lot care about handball), but the male goalkeepers are far too big for the goals in that sport. It's the same thing here, there's a reason why most male goalkeepers are pushing 200cm in height. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Toone with the 1st goal, Toon fan Georgia Stanway with the 2nd! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Just now, Kaizero said: You can say the same argument for men's handball (not that any of you English lot care about handball), but the male goalkeepers are far too big for the goals in that sport. It's the same thing here, there's a reason why most male goalkeepers are pushing 200cm in height. Average height of a female goalkeeper in the English PL is 172cm, whereas the average height of a male goalkeeper in the English PL is 190cm. That's a height difference of 18cm on average. Men also genetically have longer arms than women tend to do, so there's a clear discrepancy here which will be to the detriment of the women's game for ages as you can't really fix that without altering the size of the goals, which would be offensive to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 BBC gone rouge for a sec Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, NE27 said: Pretty much ties in with the size of goals for me. Keepers more often than not look stranded even at full stretch when a ball is struck near the corners. Just an observation and really not wanting to dig out womens football. Something I've gone on about forever, same with kid's football - there's nowt a keeper under 6 foot is going to be able to do about shots into the top corners of a full size goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, NE27 said: Decent that. Is it wrong that I think the goals should be slightly smaller for womens football? Keepers always look hard pushed to get near them top corners. Agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comegetasample Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, 54 said: BBC gone rouge for a sec Whenever anything like that happens i just assume the missiles have been launched. Heart rate goes up and my arse drops for a second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Should’ve scored there, let off as the England keeper was nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Well in lasses, some character, not at there best but got through it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Spain looked the better side IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) Great scenes. Love they played Sweet Caroline. Edited July 20, 2022 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejaxer Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Honestly, Spain's manager gave me a bit of Southgate vibes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Tsunami said: Is it wrong that I think the lasses should take pot shots as soon as they get 25 yards from goal; decent hit anywhere near the corner/ fairly high up and you’ll score a fair few? That was a fair hit but the keeper may as well not have been there. Not a criticism, just an observation. I only saw the second half and ET. The winning goal was the first time I saw England get somebody running at the defense and able to create a good shooting chance - feels like that Spanish keeper would have been beaten by a lot of shots from distance if England had had any other opportunities. On that occasion she was distracted by the other runners and was surprised by the shot, but the England player hit it beautifully. Just…nowhere near the top corner, would have been a straightforward save for a male keeper at that level. Thought Spain were far better organized and tidy throughout. No obvious weak links other than long distance shots at the keeper. Terrific movement off the ball, both when attacking and defending. England may have been tiring a bit, but there were so many times the Spanish drew four players onto their back four then passed it through them to create an overload in the midfield and/or out wide. Did Russo come on at half time? If so then I can see why they haven’t been starting her. When i’d seen her before she looked better than the older forward (Ellen White?) but I think she needs to work on her fitness. If she came on at half time then she tired a bit too quickly for my taste. There’s a chance that was the best two teams in the competition. If so, then Spain were the best team. That said, there was some very professional play from England in ET, some classic time-wasting and buying of fouls. Genuinely impressed tbh. If they can learn from this there’s no reason why they can’t win it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Surprised at how invested I was in that game today. Womens football has come a long way in short amount of time. The Spanish winger, Shei Garcia was massively impressive, such good close control and turn of speed she has our left side on its arse far too many times. Spain by far the better side, movement on and off the ball, with and without possession was on another level, but ultimately their inability to turn that dominance into goals and the dogged English defense turned the game, Lucy Bronze the pick of the bunch for me. I also think the subs changed the game, England kicked up a gear and Spain seemed to trail off, not finding the freedom on the ball they had in the first half. My main criticism of the England squad was the movement and passing from the group stage wasn't there tonight, too many times they ran into dead ends and needlessly gave the ball away, when a simple pass could have opened things up, Spain overloaded in defense pushing 2 or 3 to the ball in order to win it back and England tried to dribble out of trouble instead of looking for that pass into the space they left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iklgizmo Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) Spain were tactically better than us for about 75 minutes! They attacked down the right which meant bronze couldn't get forward, and they completely took mead and hemp out of the game However, as much as they had a lot more the ball, they didn't create a load of chances, which is where they've struggled all tournament White looks rubbish, but she tires teams out off the ball as she never stops running The difference today seemed today that we had a plan B, and they didn't, our substitutes changed the game! Semi final against (likely) Sweden will be very tough! They got to the semi finals of the world cup and the final of the Olympics, they're very strong! Even if we win that, we'll likely get Germany in the final, but let's just enjoy where we are for now!! Edited July 20, 2022 by iklgizmo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Kaizero said: Average height of a female goalkeeper in the English PL is 172cm, whereas the average height of a male goalkeeper in the English PL is 190cm. . . . Men also genetically have longer arms than women tend to do, . . . I can think of one exception though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Kaizero said: Average height of a female goalkeeper in the English PL is 172cm, whereas the average height of a male goalkeeper in the English PL is 190cm. That's a height difference of 18cm on average. Men also genetically have longer arms than women tend to do, so there's a clear discrepancy here which will be to the detriment of the women's game for ages as you can't really fix that without altering the size of the goals, which would be offensive to do. At the end of the day, is that bad that more goals get scored? Just shifts the premium on other skills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 3 hours ago, GideonShandy said: I can think of one exception though. I would imagine you reference the very same keeper I saw live tonight. His own team killed him dead. What an angry man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 6 hours ago, NE27 said: Pretty much ties in with the size of goals for me. Keepers more often than not look stranded even at full stretch when a ball is struck near the corners. Just an observation and really not wanting to dig out womens football. It’s actually something been mentioned by the womens football authorities. I’m sure it was only a year or so ago that they were suggesting that they should have smaller goals and smaller pitches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iklgizmo Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Stifler said: It’s actually something been mentioned by the womens football authorities. I’m sure it was only a year or so ago that they were suggesting that they should have smaller goals and smaller pitches. Just couldn't happen! Imagine how much money it would cost to say every single pitch has to have a separate set of goals for when women play, at every level?? If it was a major problem, loads more goals would be scored. It just makes the game different! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Unimpressed by the England performance. Based on that performance I reckon one of the elite teams left in will give them a proper battering >4 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 A bit mad that in a home Euro Championships, England meet a fellow home nation in the group stage, Spain in the Quarters then Germany in the Semis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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