James Maddison (now playing for Tottenham Hotspur)

[Fantail Breeze]

Ridiculous if we don’t pay that £50m. That is arguably great value. If we sign Maddison and can only bring a striker on loan, it’s still fantastic.

[relámpago blanco]

People just need to calm down like. 

[mighty__mag]

Just now, Fantail Breeze said:

Ridiculous if we don’t pay that £50m. That is arguably great value. If we sign Maddison and can only bring a striker on loan, it’s still fantastic.

 

You'd just sign Maddison and Cornet, then not bother with a striker wouldn't you?

[Decky]

I've seen a few people saying £45/£50m plus Dubs and it'll be done but what value do you put on Dubs? He's proven himself to be a good Premier League goalkeeper for us and if we value the deal at around £50m then we're giving them Dubs for next to nothing.  I'd value him at about £10-£15m. If he's on the deal then £40m is the absolute max I'd be given them in terms of money. 

[ponsaelius]

Would probably value Dubravka at about 5 million based on his recent injuries and age.

[relámpago blanco]

Just now, ponsaelius said:

Would probably value Dubravka at about 5 million based on his recent injuries and age.

He's in his prime for a keeper. Could have 7 or 8 years left. 

[Nine]

Reckon we got wind that Fofana will be on his way and jumped in to test their resolve on Maddison. It’s unlikely they sell both this window.

[Decky]

5 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Would probably value Dubravka at about 5 million based on his recent injuries and age.

 

There's other factors though. Leicester are one of our direct rivals for league position and we could be giving them a goalkeeper that might be their number 1 all season. That's of huge value to them. Plus it weakens our squad for that position because if anything happens to Pope we've got Darlow starting. 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Decky

[KaKa]

4 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

People just need to calm down like. 

 

Every other post is making me cringe so much man

 

The fucking tantrums being thrown. I can't believe so many are actually entitled spoilt brats already. It's actually incredible 

[Nine]

2 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

He's in his prime for a keeper. Could have 7 or 8 years left. 

He’s 34 in 6 months. 7 or 8 years is a stretch, half that and then maybe.

[gdm]

5 minutes ago, mighty__mag said:

 

You'd just sign Maddison and Cornet, then not bother with a striker wouldn't you?

To be honest I’d be happy with Maddison and a striker on loan. Maddison’s ability to score & assist makes the right wing less of a priority and Almiron might be fine there this season 

[The College Dropout]

Just now, KaKa said:

 

Every other post is making me cringe so much man

 

The fucking tantrums being thrown. I can't believe so many are actually entitled spoilt brats already. It's actually incredible 

I don’t think people are of the opinion we have a divine right for JM.  
 

People want the club to make bids selling clubs might actually accept. We are getting rumours - again - that we are bidding for players far below what would interest the selling club.  Getting fans excited but not actually close to making a deal.  

[relámpago blanco]

1 minute ago, Nine said:

He’s 34 in 6 months. 7 or 8 years is a stretch, half that and then maybe.

Ben Foster was first choice in the prem at 39 last season. 

[SteV]

N-O prior to the transfer window: ‘We need to be sensible with how we approach things, not just go on like Everton and balls it all up’

 

N-O during transfer window: ‘JUST PAY THE FUCKING MONEY’

[ponsaelius]

2 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

He's in his prime for a keeper. Could have 7 or 8 years left. 

 

Honestly I don't think this is anywhere near as true as people make out about 'keepers. 8 years left would put him at 41-42 when he retires. That's fanciful in the extreme and only handful of world class goalies have lasted that long.

 

Keepers can last longer and often do - but they can and do just as easily decline physically particularly with injuries in the same way outfield players do. The keepers that last into their late 30s usually only do so in becoming reserves or 3rd choice.

 

Dubravka has had injuries and probably has 2-3 years of top football left. Considering what we paid for Pope I think 5 million would be a fair price.

[gdm]

1 minute ago, SteV said:

N-O prior to the transfer window: ‘We need to be sensible with how we approach things, not just go on like Everton and balls it all up’

 

N-O during transfer window: ‘JUST PAY THE FUCKING MONEY’

It’s absolutely nothing like that 

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, SteV said:

N-O prior to the transfer window: ‘We need to be sensible with how we approach things, not just go on like Everton and balls it all up’

 

N-O during transfer window: ‘JUST PAY THE FUCKING MONEY’

I’d happily take Cornet £17.5m.  
 

But if we are serious about JM - I hope we make a serious £50m+ bid soon. 

[Nine]

3 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

Ben Foster was first choice in the prem at 39 last season. 

For a bottom 6 side that got relegated with ease in the end, keepers starting in the PL at that sort of age isn’t the rule.

 

Also factor in Dubs fitness record and it’s not looking likely.

 

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Nine

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Honestly I don't think this is anywhere near as true as people make out about 'keepers. 8 years left would put him at 41-42 when he retires. That's fanciful in the extreme and only handful of world class goalies have lasted that long.

 

Keepers can last longer and often do - but they can and do just as easily decline physically particularly with injuries in the same way outfield players do. The keepers that last into their late 30s usually only do so in becoming reserves or 3rd choice.

 

Dubravka has had injuries and probably has 2-3 years of top football left. Considering what we paid for Pope I think 5 million would be a fair price.

Realistically £5m is a lot. Any fee over £1m would be good imo.  

[PlymouthGeordie]

1 minute ago, SteV said:

N-O prior to the transfer window: ‘We need to be sensible with how we approach things, not just go on like Everton and balls it all up’

 

N-O during transfer window: ‘JUST PAY THE FUCKING MONEY’

 

This is just hyperbole.

 

People aren't saying "just pay the money".

 

People are struggling to grasp why we're continually targeting players beyond our budget. We may well get Maddison but we can only go on the information available and Downie, Hope, Edwards etc have all indicated we won't go close to the asking price.

[KaKa]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

I don’t think people are of the opinion we have a divine right for JM.  
 

People want the club to make bids selling clubs might actually accept. We are getting rumours - again - that we are bidding for players far below what would interest the selling club.  Getting fans excited but not actually close to making a deal.  

 

You guys stay telling the club how to bid for players. Based on what exactly should they listen to you lot?

 

They've managed to get in some top quality players so far. I'm sure they know what they're doing.

 

From what I see a number of you need to stop getting over excited and carried away when we're linked with a player you like, and just take a deep breath and calm down.

 

The club will ultimately get in the players they are happy with in all respects and that will be that. You lot swear you have all the answers about who should be signed and for what price and it's really cringe worthy.

[ponsaelius]

6 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

Ben Foster was first choice in the prem at 39 last season. 

 

Aye and he moved for £4.5 million at 29 and 2.5 million at 35. And had rather flawless appearance record.

 

You're not going to be getting much more than those kind of fees for an average PL goalie in their 30s.

[Hanshithispantz]

Even if we are willing to pay £50m we're not going to go out and brief the journalists about it.

 

[BoSelecta]

4 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said:

 

This is just hyperbole.

 

People aren't saying "just pay the money".

 

People are struggling to grasp why we're continually targeting players beyond our budget. We may well get Maddison but we can only go on the information available and Downie, Hope, Edwards etc have all indicated we won't go close to the asking price.

You can’t have it both ways. We either ‘just pay the money’ or we offer what we feel is a reasonable amount.

We’ve brought in some top quality players at good prices and will continue to do so. Some we will be in for and walk away if we can’t get what we feel is a reasonable deal.

 

[gdm]

Tbf I’m one of the few here that believes in the strict budget stories and never really believed they would throw money at it if a quality player became available like most seemed to. My only point is we keep seemingly missing out on our targets because of this. The market is mental these days.