Ikon Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Beth said: But thats Mike Ashley logic right there. Man City have just paid £30m for a 29 year old. Maddison has got a solid five or six years at the top level at least, he just seems to not want to come here. No it isn’t It’s being smart and making good long term investments. Also, we are not City. Look at the players we have signed so far for big money. Bruno, Isak, Botman and soon Tonali. That’s players with plenty of years ahead of them as well as being high quality but yet to reach their potential ceiling. We haven’t even been linked (seriously) to many +26 players. I like the way we are doing it. Players with plenty of years ahead of them plus very young players than can come in within a few years. Having the young talent coming through before our “stars” get too old is shrewd business. We obviously will continue to sign players for “now” too going forward. But too many expensive “old” ones would mean we have to replace them for big bucks even earlier. Having said all the above I would not be against JM. I just don’t see us going that route unless for less money than they want. Edited June 23, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ikon said: No it isn’t It’s being smart and making good long term investments. Also, we are not City. Look at the players we have signed so far for big money. Bruno, Isak, Botman and soon Tonali. That’s players with plenty of years ahead of them as well as being high quality but yet to reach their potential ceiling. We haven’t even been linked (seriously) to many +26 players. I like the way we are doing it. Players with plenty of years ahead of them plus very young players than can come in within a few years. Having the young talent coming through before our “stars” get too old is shrewd business. We obviously will continue to sign players for “now” too going forward. But too many expensive “old” ones would mean we have to replace them for big bucks even earlier. Bruno is exactly one year younger than Maddison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Beth said: Bruno is exactly one year younger than Maddison. Did we sign him today? No! Also he didn’t cost too much as well as being at the start of the project. He was 23/24.. I’m gonna go and talk with my door handle instead. Edited June 23, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Did we sign him today? No! Also he didn’t cost too much. I’m gonna go and talk with my door handle instead. See the bit highlighted in bold. FWIW I think he'll end up joining Spurs for around £40-45m, which would be a fair price, so pointless arguing about it further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Honestly think if we wanted him he’d be signed up already. He’s a backup plan in case something else doesn’t come off. He’ll end up going for less than 35m (wherever he ends up) but Leicester holding out for more gives us more time to haggle for primary targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Honestly think if we wanted him he’d be signed up already. He’s a backup plan in case something else doesn’t come off. He’ll end up going for less than 35m (wherever he ends up) but Leicester holding out for more gives us more time to haggle for primary targets. Disagree. Leicester are paying hard ball. They did this last season with Fofana and Tielemans. I think he is the primary target. But we want him for £40m or less. I don’t think either us or Spurs will go above £45m and are happy to wait it out. We might move on similarly priced alternatives but I don’t see us prioritising a £60m+ move for Szo as long as JM is available. Not at that price point anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 If Maddison wants to live in London more than he wants European football then we aren't missing out on much. I think £40-45m is a reasonable price if he wants the move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 It's been said numerous times in the media etc. We value a player and that's what we'll offer and sometimes we'll negotiate if the will is there from both sides to get a deal done. We'll also walk away if needs be. Absolute serious, professional outfit and i love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Wouldn't be surprised if we bring in a different winger/AM and then maybe come back to Maddison later in the window on top of that. Maybe late in the window we move on ASM/Miggy and bring Maddison in? Leicester will have to sell him eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shak said: Wouldn't be surprised if we bring in a different winger/AM and then maybe come back to Maddison later in the window on top of that. Maybe late in the window we move on ASM/Miggy and bring Maddison in? Leicester will have to sell him eventually. nor me. i think there's something in the chiesa rumours, he seems to fit the bill. Wouldn't be surprised to see us go for him and address maddison later in the window should he still be available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Maddison absolutely transforms Spurs midfield. Aside from Bentancur and Bissouma (maybe) their midfield is old/slow and uncreative. They need him more than we do yet they seem to be stalling which makes me think they don't want to pay that £50/£60M either. I'm imagining when Maddison is signed by whoever it is, it will be a few weeks down the line from now when Leicester concede and lower the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I know Leicester are down and the circumstances aren't exactly the same, but if Chelsea are rinsing Man Utd for £50M+£5M when Mount's contract is up in a year you can see why Leicester are attempting the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, lovejoy said: nor me. i think there's something in the chiesa rumours, he seems to fit the bill. Wouldn't be surprised to see us go for him and address maddison later in the window should he still be available. Aye, I remember us being linked with Chiesa soon after the takeover... I wonder if similar to Isak he's on the long term list. I remember in January there were conflicting reports about why Maddison didn't end up here. He seemed nailed on going into the WC, everyone thought he'd join us once the window opened. Some said Leicester started to play hardball with the price, others said Maddison decided to wait for the summer and see if a better option came along. If it's the latter and he ends up at a club with no European football at all instead of playing for us in the CL it'd be pretty funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I hate owt like this. Looking forward to someone signing him. Hopefully it's us but i'll be happy to move on if it's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rich said: I know Leicester are down and the circumstances aren't exactly the same, but if Chelsea are rinsing Man Utd for £50M+£5M when Mount's contract is up in a year you can see why Leicester are attempting the same. Except they are dealing with Man United who aren’t exactly known for their savvy negotiating. They paid £90m for a one footed Antony, after all. Levy got burnt overpaying for Richarlison and is probably loathe to make the same mistake again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Rich said: I know Leicester are down and the circumstances aren't exactly the same, but if Chelsea are rinsing Man Utd for £50M+£5M when Mount's contract is up in a year you can see why Leicester are attempting the same. Aye but you can do that to Man Utd. You can’t do that with Levy or us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Rich said: I know Leicester are down and the circumstances aren't exactly the same, but if Chelsea are rinsing Man Utd for £50M+£5M when Mount's contract is up in a year you can see why Leicester are attempting the same. I don't disagree. There's little pros and cons like Mount being younger but Maddison coming off a better season. I think the key is always not to build your budgets on the backs of what others are doing. Market rate plays a factor, undeniably, but we do have Szoboszlai in reserve there who again is younger, which can even help with FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Rich said: I know Leicester are down and the circumstances aren't exactly the same, but if Chelsea are rinsing Man Utd for £50M+£5M when Mount's contract is up in a year you can see why Leicester are attempting the same. Can definitely understand why but Man United are known for being a soft touch now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Think Levy being a difficult seller gets him a lot of credit on the buying side that he doesn't necessarily deserve. Spurs' "trading" has been fairly rank with the amount of money they've spent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 19 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Alright keep your wig on. Time will tell who is right Sorry chum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 40 minutes ago, Rich said: Think Levy being a difficult seller gets him a lot of credit on the buying side that he doesn't necessarily deserve. Spurs' "trading" has been fairly rank with the amount of money they've spent. He likes to think of himself as shrewd but he's just incompetent and greedy, just like the Glazers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I could point to a lot of recent transfers Spurs have made that have been pure fucking ass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 On paper Maddison's a safer bet than someone like Dom Szob cos he's proven himself in a tougher league. That usually comes with a premium yet he's cheaper because of age, contract and Leicester's relegation. He's as safe a bet as you can make ability-wise but the main concern is his injury record. I can also see why some are saying that Maddison just doesn't feel like a Newcastle player. Howe's building a team of warriors and Maddison does give off middle class hipster vibes. Based on Dennis Wise reports and what people are saying, Szob seems more like a Howe player. He's captain of Hungary at 22, has a more physical build and has proven he can play a high energy pressing game. It'll probably be neither in the end and someone no one expected. If Spurs get Maddison, I hope we at least help to push the price up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, ohmelads said: On paper Maddison's a safer bet than someone like Dom Szob cos he's proven himself in a tougher league. That usually comes with a premium yet he's cheaper because of age, contract and Leicester's relegation. He's as safe a bet as you can make ability-wise but the main concern is his injury record. I can also see why some are saying that Maddison just doesn't feel like a Newcastle player. Howe's building a team of warriors and Maddison does give off middle class hipster vibes. Based on Dennis Wise reports and what people are saying, Szob seems more like a Howe player. He's captain of Hungary at 22, has a more physical build and has proven he can play a high energy pressing game. It'll probably be neither in the end and someone no one expected. If Spurs get Maddison, I hope we at least help to push the price up. I want us to take the risk and go all in on Szob! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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