mighty__mag Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Conor Gallagher on loan, That would be a great loan signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, arnonel said: Where are all the undiscovered Ashworth gems? All links seem to be big guns I think we want to immediately improve first team squad first and foremost which means players with some experience who aren't prospects too far down the line or possibly unsuitable for the league. I imagine once we are largely happy with the first team squad we will add depth to it with more Ashworth style signings who will develop and grow into first team positions rather than needing to work right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: With Wood in the team we amassed 32 points in 17 games. I Then the pessimist in me would ask is it despite of or due to? And I would say it is despite of him playing. Admittedly it would be the best thing if he could suddenly play a part time role when we shit bricks as Wilson is out, but I would feel much better if we signed an actual striker that could take over from Wilson at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, worthy said: Then the pessimist in me would ask is it despite of or due to? And I would say it is despite of him playing. Admittedly it would be the best thing if he could suddenly play a part time role when we shit bricks as Wilson is out, but I would feel much better if we signed an actual striker that could take over from Wilson at some point. I think you're addressing the wrong question. For me the question is can we get along with Wood in the team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 We can get along with Wood in the team We can get along with Kratfh in the team We can get along with Lascelles in the team. We can get along with Almiron, Murphy or Fraser in the team. We can get along with Longstaff in the team. If it's about getting along, then we might aswell shut for business, we're fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: I think you're addressing the wrong question. For me the question is can we get along with Wood in the team? I'll answer that, no! We instantly become weaker, then other players try to make up ground for his inconsistency, but, those players then get the blame. Wood is a player I'd use if I had absolutely no choice, it was a terrible signing for the price, but people will somehow argue and make a case because we stayed up Wood played a big part? We stayed up because of Bruno and other signings, but let others believe what they want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 It'll be so disappointing to not get a couple of attacking players, I think a top 6 place is up for grabs this season. I find it hard to believe we've walked away from the Maddison deal as well, if that was West Ham their owners would be accused of a fake bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Woods hold up play was quite effective last season. He is not the best finisher but he is far from being a rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: I'll answer that, no! We instantly become weaker, then other players try to make up ground for his inconsistency, but, those players then get the blame. Wood is a player I'd use if I had absolutely no choice, it was a terrible signing for the price, but people will somehow argue and make a case because we stayed up Wood played a big part? We stayed up because of Bruno and other signings, but let others believe what they want to. We stayed up because of a huge collective effort, inspired by the coaching team and owners. And fans. I'm not going to argue that with Wood in the team we will get 37 points every 17 games. But he's an adequate substitute when we could spend the money on a first choice CM who will improve the first team in every way. Obviously if we have the money to get both I'd welcome that, but we're talking about priorities. i say we replace the guy who IS injured before we replace the guy who might get injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, Zero said: Woods hold up play was quite effective last season. He is not the best finisher but he is far from being a rubbish. Thing is he can't do much worse than his 2 goals in 17. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: We can get along with Wood in the team We can get along with Kratfh in the team We can get along with Lascelles in the team. We can get along with Almiron, Murphy or Fraser in the team. We can get along with Longstaff in the team. If it's about getting along, then we might aswell shut for business, we're fine We're talking about which purchase we should prioritise, hat part of that implies getting along? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakzz Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Who is betting on Paqueta to City then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, snakzz said: Who is betting on Paqueta to City then? I would cry, had my heart set on bruno him and big joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, snakzz said: Who is betting on Paqueta to City then? Aye, Fab seems to think they'll move for him if Bernardo goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, arnonel said: Where are all the undiscovered Ashworth gems? All links seem to be big guns At Brighton they have systems in place where they signed uncovered gems and were able to farm them out on loan or send them to their feeder club in Belgium He'll have a different task for this summer here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, danny said: I would cry, had my heart set on bruno him and big joe A 7/1 winner might cushion the blow though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: A 7/1 winner might cushion the blow though. Who could resist such a price? Even if it doesn't happen you'd be a mug to miss out on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Perhaps that's why he hasn't signed for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: We stayed up because of a huge collective effort, inspired by the coaching team and owners. And fans. I'm not going to argue that with Wood in the team we will get 37 points every 17 games. But he's an adequate substitute when we could spend the money on a first choice CM who will improve the first team in every way. Obviously if we have the money to get both I'd welcome that, but we're talking about priorities. i say we replace the guy who IS injured before we replace the guy who might get injured. Like I said people believe what they want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nufc123 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Oh yes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 It all depends on what the owners/Ashworth think and what they want the timeline to be - and what players like Bruno and Botman have been told to expect. Howe is clearly committed to squad unity and team culture. He won't want to sign just anyone - even Bruno/Botman have had to work their way into the starting XI - and so if Ashworth et al think that we can achieve 7th/8th with the existing group, Howe's not going to push too hard for upgrades at this point. It seems to me they have a plan in place consisting of step by step growth and they don't seem too keen on skipping steps, even if those of us on the outside think it would be a good idea. I appreciate their patience though I admit it is frustrating at times to seemingly be missing out on realistic targets. It is no coincidence that we are getting fantastic performances from the likes of Burn, Shelvey (pre injury), Joelinton, Almiron, players who have been doubted or underwhelming. Even ASM seems to be more committed to putting the work in to go along with his incredible skill. Getting the overall squad performance to the levels we are seeing now has involved a culture of buy-in and commitment. The wrong buy might jeopardize that - and for what? Is 5th/6th realistic right now? Probably not unless everything falls into place. Meanwhile we found a Bruno, who is absolutely perfect for the profile and seems committed to the long-term growth of the club. He is the perfect example of the kind of player we need to target, but someone of his talent and cultural fit is exceptionally rare. I have to accept that we're going to be patient in the build but so far, I have little to complain about. It's a process. Hopefully we'll find one or two to add to the process before the window shuts. But even if not, the club trajectory is indicative of a wonderful future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 We can only hope ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Dieng one already rubbished by French press, supposedly 5th choice at Marseille and turned up for pre season massively out of shape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Pls Pls Pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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