BlazeT44 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, reefatoon said: They won’t be travelling over by steam boat. This made me laugh way more than it should have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KaKa Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I like Gallagher, but at this point I don't think any club should be paying the actual value for any of their players. I'd bid around half of their values. So for Gallagher I'm bidding £15 million. If they don't want to sell they can keep all those players on their books and figure out who they won't be registering and then deal with all that palaver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I was complaining about Gordon to a Man City fan I work with, he reminded me that it doesn't really matter, he said if you guys go through the same transition we did, then you sign some players and they literally don't always stick, he mentioned we made some weird signings like Jo, Nastasic, Scott Sinclair, Weiss, many more, He was saying on the journey Newcastle fans will be going on, in the early stages, theres never any point getting attached to anyone, theres a core of key players, and then players bought into achieve a target, these players are here for all sorts of different reasons, and some will stay a few seasons, others could be around for one season, it doesn't matter. He said, right now, for you, you're attached to this current crop of players because they're doing well, you're invested because you have already come a long way in a short space of time, however, this Newcastle side will be forever evolving now, he expects us to be going on a similar journey to City, and just reminds him of how City were unsure of the signings they made, obviously they made some great ones, major ones, but he was alluding to the early stages of Newcastle, and that Gordon won't even matter further down the line, Ending with just enjoy the journey Newcastle are embarking on. I think this made me less arsed about the signing if it goes ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, KaKa said: I like Gallagher, but at this point I don't think any club should be paying the actual value for any of their players. I'd bid around half of their values. So for Gallagher I'm bidding £15 million. If they don't want to sell they can keep all those players on their books and figure out who they won't be registering and then deal with all that palaver. Loan deal would suit us, can’t see them loaning anyone to us though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Linked to us as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, mighty__mag said: I was complaining about Gordon to a Man City fan I work with, he reminded me that it doesn't really matter, he said if you guys go through the same transition we did, then you sign some players and they literally don't always stick, he mentioned we made some weird signings like Jo, Nastasic, Scott Sinclair, Weiss, many more, He was saying on the journey Newcastle fans will be going on, in the early stages, theres never any point getting attached to anyone, theres a core of key players, and then players bought into achieve a target, these players are here for all sorts of different reasons, and some will stay a few seasons, others could be around for one season, it doesn't matter. He said, right now, for you, you're attached to this current crop of players because they're doing well, you're invested because you have already come a long way in a short space of time, however, this Newcastle side will be forever evolving now, he expects us to be going on a similar journey to City, and just reminds him of how City were unsure of the signings they made, obviously they made some great ones, major ones, but he was alluding to the early stages of Newcastle, and that Gordon won't even matter further down the line, Ending with just enjoy the journey Newcastle are embarking on. I think this made me less arsed about the signing if it goes ahead. And then FFP came in and meant that clubs couldn’t just buy for inflated prices and sell for losses like Man City did. Clubs now have to be very precise and less scattergun so as to comply with the financial regulations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Loan deal would suit us, can’t see them loaning anyone to us though. Still kind of does them a favour though. If he comes in and shines then they'll get more money for him next summer. No one should be doing them any favours right now with all of the stockpiling of players they're doing. Let them start making them available for cheap then do business with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Did someone say buying English players is better for FFP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Linked to us as well Classic Everton move man. My God! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 No fresh links to creative midfielders. Worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Everton spunking 25m on Ziyech would be a classic. They just don't learn do they Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Can’t see him agreeing to go there anyway. Even at this stage of his career he’s better than a relegation scrap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Of all the Chelsea rejects, Pulisic would make the most sense. I don’t see where Gallagher would play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ben said: Did someone say buying English players is better for FFP No, selling homegrown players is what's excellent for FFP. Chelsea selling Conor Gallagher would be pure FFP profit, as they developed him. So if they sold him for 40m, all of that goes back into the accounts as profit - there's no other transfer fee amortized to deal with. FFP allows teams to amortize - or stretch out - the transfer fee over the life of the signed contract, which is why Chelsea are signing players to 7 and 8 year contracts. 80m for Mudryk divided by 8 years equals 10m per year of FFP cost. But selling Gallagher gives them an immediate 40m credit. So it's almost a cheat code allowing them to sign multiple expensive players and not have it cost against them on the FFP books, at least not this season or next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Of all the Chelsea rejects, Pulisic would make the most sense. I don’t see where Gallagher would play? Pulisic’ injury record is what puts me off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Scotty66 said: Everton spunking 25m on Ziyech would be a classic. They just don't learn do they Spending the Gordon money in that case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Of all the Chelsea rejects, Pulisic would make the most sense. I don’t see where Gallagher would play? Pulisic is a permacrock. Gallagher would replace Longstaff in the 433. But probably doesn’t start in a 4231. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Of all the Chelsea rejects, Pulisic would make the most sense. I don’t see where Gallagher would play? You wouldn't pick Gallagher ahead of Longstaff? Or Willock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Of all the Chelsea rejects, Pulisic would make the most sense. I don’t see where Gallagher would play? He’s out for a while so rules him out. As others have said can’t see Chelsea loaning us anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rich said: You wouldn't pick Gallagher ahead of Longstaff? Or Willock? Not Willock. Longstaff probably but the difference for the outlay in fee and wages doesn’t make it worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, LFEE said: Not Willock. Longstaff probably but the difference for the outlay in fee and wages doesn’t make it worth it. Gallagher's better than Sleepy Joe, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, Manxst said: And then FFP came in and meant that clubs couldn’t just buy for inflated prices and sell for losses like Man City did. Clubs now have to be very precise and less scattergun so as to comply with the financial regulations. That's true to an extent but if you sign someone like Gordon on a 5-year deal, let's say £40m fee, if he has two decent seasons and you can find a buyer for £25m then you're still making a FFP profit (not including wages obviously) The key with FFP is just to not sign complete duds that you can't give away a few years down the line. Even a couple of those examples (Nastasic & Sinclair) I don't think even made a loss from a FFP perspective although I haven't actually sat at worked it out exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Hurry up and sign someone ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rich said: Gallagher's better than Sleepy Joe, like. Give Gallagher 18 months under Howe and he’d be in with half a chance of being a starter for England at the Euros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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