The Butcher Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Almiron had two good months where everything went in. He grafts and he's got pace, but he's way too limited to be starting for us if we want to improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: Almiron had two good months where everything went in. He grafts and he's got pace, but he's way too limited to be starting for us if we want to improve. In my opinion, miggy is a player you want coming on when you’re 1-0/2-1 up and want to shore up and see the game out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 48 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: No excuse to not get the RW in this summer imo, it’s been a glaring weakness for a while now. Has it not been our main strength? Pretty sure Almiron is our second highest scorer. One of our most consistent performers and I’m guessing pretty high up in our assists standings? Hence the new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) Did I misremember the game against Brighton, or did we not see Miggy continually absolutely rinse Estupiñán? You know the player that many pundits had as the best left back in the league this season. I can’t be the only one who thinks there may be plenty of players in our squad who are still yet to hit their ceilings, with more confidence, fitness and quality coaching; seeing them continue to hit levels we didn’t think they were capable of. I personally think Miggy, Longstaff and both Joe's all fall into that category. Edited May 27, 2023 by Ghandis Flip-Flop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) Almirón has had a great season when looking at his numbers but when you look at his whole tenure here, including his form in 2023 so far, there's nothing there to suggest that the run he had in October-November wasn't a purple patch. He's very useful in games where we don't see a lot of the ball but press the opposition, as seen v Brighton the other day, but as an attacker where we have a lot of the of the ball and the onus is on us to unlock a deep sitting defence I don't think he's good enough for a CL team. His all round play in possession is poor imo. Good squad option to have with 4 competitions next season, likewise with Murphy, but if I was to give you an ideal starting XI for next season after the transfer window has closed Almirón is not in it. Edited May 27, 2023 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, LFEE said: Has it not been our main strength? Pretty sure Almiron is our second highest scorer. One of our most consistent performers and I’m guessing pretty high up in our assists standings? Hence the new contract. Yeah the right side isn’t top quality, but Trippier plays high up the pitch so I’m thinking Eddie will be happy to start the season with Almiron and Murphy. A versatile player like Maddison or Szoboszlai is probably the type of signing we’d go for - someone that can play in the middle or out wide if needed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, andyc35i said: Yeah the right side isn’t top quality, but Trippier plays high up the pitch so I’m thinking Eddie will be happy to start the season with Almiron and Murphy. A versatile player like Maddison or Szoboszlai is probably the type of signing we’d go for - someone that can play in the middle or out wide if needed The reason why Trippier plays so high up the pitch is because he knows the diligence of Almiron and Murphy can and will cover him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Almiron had two good months where everything went in. He grafts and he's got pace, but he's way too limited to be starting for us if we want to improve. He wasnt just good though, he got premier league player of the month. Unreliable, but has shown hes got it in him. So rather not spend a massive part of the budget on a pure RW who will be benched when Almiron is on top of his game. Much rather get someone like Szoboszlai and Maddison who can fill in that role when needed, and who can also compete with Longstaffs position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 CM, CB & LB are more important to me than a winger. we were very fortunate with how often we've been able to play the same back 4 this year, can't see us having the same fortune when we're in Europe too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Almirón has had a great season when looking at his numbers but when you look at his whole tenure here, including his form in 2023 so far, there's nothing there to suggest that the run he had in October-November wasn't a purple patch. He's very useful in games where we don't see a lot of the ball but press the opposition, as seen v Brighton the other day, but as an attacker where we have a lot of the of the ball and the onus is on us to unlock a deep sitting defence I don't think he's good enough for a CL team. His all round play in possession is poor imo. Good squad option to have with 4 competitions next season, likewise with Murphy, but if I was to give you an ideal starting XI for next season after the transfer window has closed Almirón is not in it. If think the same can be said for most of our midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 A player like Almiron is vital for the intensity we want to play at, even as a bench player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Displayname said: If think the same can be said for most of our midfield. Agree. Which is why they are both positions which need upgrading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 We get an exciting rumour like Kim Min-Jae and there's no new thread yet we still have a McTominay thread... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skeletor said: We get an exciting rumour like Kim Min-Jae and there's no new thread yet we still have a McTominay thread... I get yelled at every time I make a thread so I wait for a proper source (Luke Edwards) to confirm interest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) Pedrinho 17 years old another exciting young Brazilian talent who can play out wide. We’ve been tentatively linked alongside Brighton and Arsenal, convinced we’re signing a young player from Brazil this summer. Edited May 27, 2023 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 43 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Pedrinho 17 years old another exciting young Brazilian talent who can play out wide. We’ve been tentatively linked alongside Brighton and Arsenal, convinced we’re signing a young player from Brazil this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Skeletor said: We get an exciting rumour like Kim Min-Jae and there's no new thread yet we still have a McTominay thread... What a player! Napoli is my second team and I did follow them all season long. Not the quckest but one who can read the game very well. ? Can‘t wait for the thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Swissmag said: What a player! Napoli is my second team and I did follow them all season long. Not the quckest but one who can read the game very well. ? Can‘t wait for the thread That'd be a concern. I know Botman isn't a slouch but I think we need some pace there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 I know it was 20 years ago but... We brought in Lee Bowyer (free transfer) the last year Robson qualified for the champions league and lost the play off game ?. Still not sure why... Was it money, loyalty to the players who finished third or a case we could not sell any of our squad players?? But it always reminded me of Liverpool in their prime when no matter what they had won they added two, three first team players to freshen things up and keep others on their toes. So I just hope when the season starts we have made forward steps as a team, be it youth, squad, first team or purples being replaced. The one positive I can see is that this is not a blip and good things will come! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: I know it was 20 years ago but... We brought in Lee Bowyer (free transfer) the last year Robson qualified for the champions league and lost the play off game ?. Still not sure why... Was it money, loyalty to the players who finished third or a case we could not sell any of our squad players?? But it always reminded me of Liverpool in their prime when no matter what they had won they added two, three first team players to freshen things up and keep others on their toes. So I just hope when the season starts we have made forward steps as a team, be it youth, squad, first team or purples being replaced. The one positive I can see is that this is not a blip and good things will come! Didn't Shepherd try to pass off Woodgate (bought in the winter window) as a signing for the Champs league ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: I know it was 20 years ago but... We brought in Lee Bowyer (free transfer) the last year Robson qualified for the champions league and lost the play off game ?. Still not sure why... Was it money, loyalty to the players who finished third or a case we could not sell any of our squad players?? But it always reminded me of Liverpool in their prime when no matter what they had won they added two, three first team players to freshen things up and keep others on their toes. We ran out of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 5 hours ago, gbandit said: Lascelles actually played really well when called upon this season 5 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: He’s better than people think. Especially in a proper unit. 5 hours ago, Joseph said: Lascelles is crap and relying on him for any meaningful stretch of games would be a disaster. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 For memory - you couldn’t count the CL money until you actually qualified. So buying players before you had qualified was a risk. But tbh buying a new purple to try to ensure you won that play-off was a better strategy than hoping you qualify with what you have and then trying to sign someone in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: For memory - you couldn’t count the CL money until you actually qualified. So buying players before you had qualified was a risk. But tbh buying a new purple to try to ensure you won that play-off was a better strategy than hoping you qualify with what you have and then trying to sign someone in January. But we just qualified with what we had, and clubs like Chelsea went the other way by doing exactly what you said we should have done. I think this just proves there are very rarely shortcut solutions these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, TRon said: But we just qualified with what we had, and clubs like Chelsea went the other way by doing exactly what you said we should have done. I think this just proves there are very rarely shortcut solutions these days. Did Chelsea lose a CL qualifying round? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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