The College Dropout Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, McCormick said: Fair enough, but the player has to do exceptionally well to be considered by any of those teams you’ve mentioned. It’s become a riskier proposition now for sure. Richarlison scored 43 goals in 135 pl matches to get that move. Even his Everton move could've been as high as 50m. Raphinha 17 in 65 (and a lot of assists). You don't have to be a world-beater to get that type of fee for a Brazilian international. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Btw Raphinha has started poorly at Barca. If he continues to dissappoint and Barca crash out of Europe, i'd be in for him next summer and give Barca 80% of their fee back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) Quick calculation, sign Brazilian player X for £20m fee + 5yr contract @£40k/week = £2m/year wages + £4m/year amortisation = £6m/year So hypothetically if you sell X for £30m after three seasons, he'll gain you £22m from a FFP perspective* because his book value will be £20m - (3 x £4m) = £8m We bought Bruno for £35m (I think?) and all he had was 50 appearances in France and a handful of Brazil caps. *I'm not sure whether wages would be part of the calculation, if so then it's a £16m gain because he'll have cost £6m in wages Edited October 25, 2022 by Keegans Export Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Richarlison scored 43 goals in 135 pl matches to get that move. Even his Everton move could've been as high as 50m. Raphinha 17 in 65 (and a lot of assists). You don't have to be a world-beater to get that type of fee for a Brazilian international. I see your point but, stats aside, Richarlison was widely considered to be the best attacking player outside the top 6. Basing your business model on the expectation that you’ll unearth a Richarlison-level player every time you speculate on a 30m 18 year-old is slightly optimistic. Thats not to say that what we’re trying isn’t super exciting though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 * Raphinha, not Richarlison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, McCormick said: I see your point but, stats aside, Richarlison was widely considered to be the best attacking player outside the top 6. Basing your business model on the expectation that you’ll unearth a Richarlison-level player every time you speculate on a 30m 18 year-old is slightly optimistic. Thats not to say that what we’re trying isn’t super exciting though! Yes that's exactly what I think. I think if you spend £30m on an 18-year old you expect them to be worth £60m when they are 25. £30m gets you a Jack Harrison, Zaha in January. If we choose to spend that on a teenager, we would think that kid has a higher ceiling. That has been Real Madrid's transfer strategy post-Neymar. Sign the best Brazilian wonderkids for a lot of money, in the hope they either become superstars at Real Madrid or at least good enough to be sold for a healthy profit. Edited October 25, 2022 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 JUST WATCHED ANGELO GABRIEL ON YOUTUBE…. BEN ARFA-ESQUE, but twice the size. I would Dennis Wise this boy!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I wish it was January already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 41 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: I wish it was January already. Soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, buzza said: JUST WATCHED ANGELO GABRIEL ON YOUTUBE…. BEN ARFA-ESQUE, but twice the size. I would Dennis Wise this boy!!! Gonna be a superstar this kid will make St Max look like Steve Guppy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Gonna be a superstar this kid will make St Max look like Steve Guppy. Looking back on my old posts, he was first linked with us in early July. My concern then was that he had 54 games, zero goals. He's only 17, but if we get him, his first lessons should be on finishing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 He seems to play right wing or inside right most of the time. His passing is sublime and he dribbles and shields the ball like ben arfa but is able to use his body strength better. doesnt seem to shoot a lot, release s the ball for his team-mates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 hours ago, buzza said: JUST WATCHED ANGELO GABRIEL ON YOUTUBE…. BEN ARFA-ESQUE, but twice the size. I would Dennis Wise this boy!!! Every opportunity he has for the killer pass he doesn't take it. :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Interesting that we were linked with Luke Shaw and he's out of contract this year. A few others on the list, which we have been linked to in the past; Asensio, Ndicka for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 37 minutes ago, STM said: Interesting that we were linked with Luke Shaw and he's out of contract this year. A few others on the list, which we have been linked to in the past; Asensio, Ndicka for example. I think Shaw would be a good signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) That Mudryk we were linked with looks real quality Edited October 25, 2022 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) On 24/10/2022 at 17:44, Kid Icarus said: I haven't watched Leeds since their form's dipped. Presumably Harrison's gone off the boil as well then? I've seen him few times and he has looked really poor and one-footed, with Almiron's form I would be disappointed if we signed Harrison now. Rather sign someone that's better than Almiron right now or a lot younger. Edited October 25, 2022 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: I think Shaw would be a good signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannybagoftudor Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Southerner said: Every opportunity he has for the killer pass he doesn't take it. :/ If anything he is more left footed than Miggy - it's a no from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 37 minutes ago, gdm said: That Mudryk we were linked with looks real quality Looks like almost guaranteed star, shame all of Europe will be after him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, cannybagoftudor said: If anything he is more left footed than Miggy - it's a no from me. He’s 17 😂 bit early to write him off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, gdm said: That Mudryk we were linked with looks real quality desperate.Trossard might be more sensible, but this lad could be a generational talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I won't get a wink of sleep thinking about Merino and Bruno in the same midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 10 hours ago, Southerner said: Every opportunity he has for the killer pass he doesn't take it. :/ Not the best highlight reel. Everything cuts short before an assist/goal/key pass. Suggests he does a bit of dribbling - in a weak league - but not much in the final third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 He's still 16 years old in a lot of those clips. Perhaps he hasn't quite reached his potential yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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