PauloGeordio Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: The owners do. Doesn’t mean they can, will (or want) to spend it. It’s gonna be an exciting summer either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Just now, Manxst said: It’s more the wages being an issue I think. Increased sponsorship and getting rid of certain players will naturally help, but it’ll still need reducing short term to comply with future regulations. The wages one is interesting, I think it very much depends on where you’re buying from. If your aiming go buy from inflated markets like the premier league then yes, we better get ready to pay up. If we are buying players of the same profile as Bruno and Botman then it should be manageable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Just now, Manxst said: It’s more the wages being an issue I think. Increased sponsorship and getting rid of certain players will naturally help, but it’ll still need reducing short term to comply with future regulations. Probably got an extra 500k at the end of the season with the new shirt deal and contracts expiring. I'd expect us to stretch another 100k a week out in other new sponsors and we'll sell a couple of players as well. Think we've got room to spend 200m and support its weekly outlay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Vitor Roque Raphinha/Kulusevski Arda Guler Sorryboysoshy/Baturina Thuram/Kone/Merino Carlos Augusto/Tierney Todibo Fresneda Just throwing out some random names here, both cheap and expensive options. Not that we will sign this many, but players i'd be very happy with. Edited May 26, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Just now, Dokko said: Probably got an extra 500k at the end of the season with the new shirt deal and contracts expiring. I'd expect us to stretch another 100k a week out in other new sponsors and we'll sell a couple of players as well. Think we've got room to spend 200m and support its weekly outlay. I’d read recently that we were up to nearly 95% wages to turnover. That, plus increases for Bruno etc, doesn’t sound very healthy, considering Amanda said the wage bill needed reducing drastically last year. Know we’ll have increased wriggle room with higher turnover, but buying players from top 5 leagues/CL teams will need to be carefully managed (which I’m aware the club will do, but it’s still a big consideration regarding all these potential signing names). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Personally i think we will be signing players similar to Botman/Isak Bruno and a couple of wonderkids perhaps. For whatever positions that might be.. Players like Dominik/Wirtz isn't entirely impossible as an Isak typ of signing imo. Depending on Wirtz price/knee. Edited May 26, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Dokko said: Chris Rigg to sign for us on his 16th birthday? Pewa profit for them at least. Mackem I know (not of the RTG variant) is adamant we are out of the equation, either he'll stay (most likely he reckons) or off to Man-U Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ikon said: Personally i think we will be signing players similar to Botman/Isak Bruno and a couple of wonderkids perhaps. For whatever positions that might be.. Players like Dominik/Wirtz isn't entirely impossible as an Isak typ of signing imo. Depending on Wirtz price/knee. I think CL changes a lot of things Ikon - if this was a non CL window I think we’d buy Tierney - A mid - Maddison with CL football we buy 2 stars and 1 additional player (CB) with the money and sponsor deals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Just now, Mikky said: I think CL changes a lot of things Ikon - if this was a non CL window I think we’d buy Tierney - A mid - Maddison with CL football we buy 2 stars and 1 additional player (CB) with the money and sponsor deals Aye it definitely does change things. Exciting times ahead. Quality before quantity even though we need much better depth Sign "wonderkids" for backup and allow current starting players also provide depth IF new players coming in show more quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Aye it definitely does change things. Exciting times ahead. Quality before quantity even though we need much better depth Sign "wonderkids" for backup and allow current starting players also provide depth IF new players coming in show more quality. Just as a left back option I wonder if we might take a look at the Rennes LB (Truffert?) as an alternative to Tierney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Mackem I know (not of the RTG variant) is adamant we are out of the equation, either he'll stay (most likely he reckons) or off to Man-U Sounds like copium and usual mackems tales to make them sleep easier at night. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Just now, Dokko said: Sounds like copium and usual mackems tales to make them sleep easier at night. ? Possibly, they are experts at copium I hope he does join because the reaction alone will be worth it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mikky said: I think CL changes a lot of things Ikon - if this was a non CL window I think we’d buy Tierney - A mid - Maddison with CL football we buy 2 stars and 1 additional player (CB) with the money and sponsor deals However much we spend I think CL qualification removes some of the haggling for top players. As in some might’ve been waiting to see if we get top four (some might come irrespective as with Bruno, Botman etc). Europe league might’ve meant a bit more convincing for some players with options in front of them. CL qualification changes the dynamic too though in that we now HAVE to bring in quality and a fair bit of it. That doesn’t mean we’ll necessarily spend 200m but we’re going to have to shell out a fair old whack to be competitive on all fronts and maintain CL status next season in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 49 minutes ago, Manxst said: I’d read recently that we were up to nearly 95% wages to turnover. That, plus increases for Bruno etc, doesn’t sound very healthy, considering Amanda said the wage bill needed reducing drastically last year. Know we’ll have increased wriggle room with higher turnover, but buying players from top 5 leagues/CL teams will need to be carefully managed (which I’m aware the club will do, but it’s still a big consideration regarding all these potential signing names). Absolutely, and it’s why people have to realise we can’t get players in on £200k p/w (yet). You can spend ~£60m on an Isak-type player and be able to pay them £100k/£120k p/w, which we can obviously do. But what we can’t do is spend ~£60m on someone like Marco Asensio or Ansu Fati who would probably command £200k+ p/w (those two might be poor examples, but you see what I mean). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Wor Eddie not exactly filling me with confidence about changes this summer… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Wor Eddie not exactly filling me with confidence about changes this summer… What did he say to you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Wor Eddie not exactly filling me with confidence about changes this summer… That's just Howe though. Chats about FFP, plays down the budget or amount of players that he wants to sign, never wants to sell anyone. It's been the same every transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Eddie said 2-3 which sounds low. I think we need 4 quality signings as a minimum. Edited May 26, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 We've massively played down our transfer market capabilities every single time, before then blowing significant dollar. I would take anything anyone at the club says with even a gallon of salt. An awful lot of the discourse on here during the summer window was how you say? 'bedwetty as fook'; and it all turned out thoroughly marvellous. I pray that we're not gonna go through the same shit again if we haven't signed Szoboszlai and Diaby by mid-July. They'll get it right, they always do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Hardly gonna give anything away is he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Just now, Yorkie said: They'll get it right, they always do. Basically my approach to supporting the club for the last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Eddie said 2-3 which sounds low. I think we need 4 quality signings as a minimum. I would take a fair bit of what he says with a pinch of salt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 minute ago, ExiledGeordie said: I would take a fair bit of what he says with a pinch of salt Literally the press conference after Leicester he joked about how he does not tell journalists the full story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) There's definitely a lot to be said for not signing too many players as well, mind. We all thought we needed more last summer and actually we got it spot on with the 3 we signed (I'm taking Targett as already in the building). They added genuine quality to the spine of the team. Players we thought weren't good enough have stepped up massively, and not having significant turnover of players has retained and actually fostered the team spirit. It's a crucial balancing act. It's definitely better to focus on quality rather than quantity. We just have to get the balance right because we're going to get so many more injuries next year. Basically I'm saying 2-3 doesn't sound enough, but 6 might actually be too much. Edited May 26, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I wonder - especially if Ritchie leaves - we'll be looking to recruit with the 'leadership group' in mind; i.e. an older squad player whose value is as much (if not more) on the dressing room as it is on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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