Sean Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 We'd been after Ashby for a few windows, they obviously see something they like there. It's just a bit of a shame he isn't a couple of months younger, as he will need to take a squad place for this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 If the budget is as low as £75 million, then we really should try make the most of the free transfer market as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 What happens if say Isak got injured during Wilson's innevitable injury period. Who would play down the middle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mountain said: What happens if say Isak got injured during Wilson's innevitable injury period. Who would play down the middle? You'd imagine it'd be big Joe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: If the budget is as low as £75 million, then we really should try make the most of the free transfer market as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Didn’t somebody post that £75m is misleading because say we buy somebody for £60m over 5 years then that’s only £12m out of the £75m kitty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: If the budget is as low as £75 million, then we really should try make the most of the free transfer market as well. We spent £63m on Isak alone last summer. I fail to see how we've got less to spend this year considering the Sela and Champions League income we've just brought in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Didn’t somebody post that £75m is misleading because say we buy somebody for £60m over 5 years then that’s only £12m out of the £75m kitty? Think it’s all smoke and mirrors. Nobody knows. Journos fed scraps to allege we’re skint. We’re in the champions league and 5th gives us that next year. We’re going for it. IF we can get our desired targets we will! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: We spent £63m on Isak alone last summer. I fail to see how we've got less to spend this year considering the Sela and Champions League income we've just brought in. It’s science against us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 1 minute ago, LV said: It’s science against us Trust the science! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Kone not likely for Liverpool https://twitter.com/Plettigoal/status/1667551604214472704?s=20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Crazy how one (fairly reputable) source can say its all verbally agreed for Kone and then another saying that he's only on the shortlist but not a "hot target". Its absolutely ridiculous ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Mazzy said: Crazy how one (fairly reputable) source can say its all verbally agreed for Kone and then another saying that he's only on the shortlist but not a "hot target". Its absolutely ridiculous ? Guesswork! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Mazzy said: Crazy how one (fairly reputable) source can say its all verbally agreed for Kone and then another saying that he's only on the shortlist but not a "hot target". Its absolutely ridiculous ? Basically summed up the whole transfer window there ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: We spent £63m on Isak alone last summer. I fail to see how we've got less to spend this year considering the Sela and Champions League income we've just brought in. Champions League income could be low to begin but you still make a valid point. Doesn't make sense our budget would drop that much when revenue is actually increasing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Just now, rebelrouser said: Champions League income could be low to begin but you still make a valid point. Doesn't make sense our budget would drop that much when revenue is actually increasing. I’m going with it hasn’t dropped! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mazzy said: Crazy how one (fairly reputable) source can say its all verbally agreed for Kone and then another saying that he's only on the shortlist but not a "hot target". Its absolutely ridiculous ? Could be that they'd agreed terms with his reps in case the Thuram deal fell through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Kone was pretty much my number one choice for our midfield. I think €40 million is a more than fair price too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Aside from the "Never tell the sell how much money you have" thoughths, Im thinking the new "low" budget is whats left over after they have Dom Szlob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Gawalls said: Didn’t somebody post that £75m is misleading because say we buy somebody for £60m over 5 years then that’s only £12m out of the £75m kitty? I think that was wishful thinking more than anything. While I agree with Ashworth that the level we have been spending at is unsustainable, if we can buy a LB, RCB, CM x2 and a RM at the right quality and age to develop then this might be the last window where we have to buy so many anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 4 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: I’m going with it hasn’t dropped! Ffp is based on a rolling three year basis and we’ve spent more now with last two windows so that will be why we have less (if we do). Said it a few times now - these owners have a long term plan they don’t seem to deviate from so I feel a lot of people will be hugely disappointed at the end of this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt1892 said: I think that was wishful thinking more than anything. While I agree with Ashworth that the level we have been spending at is unsustainable, if we can buy a LB, RCB, CM x2 and a RM at the right quality and age to develop then this might be the last window where we have to buy so many anyway. So you want just the five players then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Just now, Gawalls said: So you want just the five players then? This window? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Gawalls said: Ffp is based on a rolling three year basis and we’ve spent more now with last two windows so that will be why we have less (if we do). Said it a few times now - these owners have a long term plan they don’t seem to deviate from so I feel a lot of people will be hugely disappointed at the end of this window. 100% The only way around some fairly straightforward mathematics is to do what Chelsea have done and offer ridiculously long contracts to players to amortise the fees over a long period. Our owners aren’t that stupid. The CL money bonanza also isn’t quite the bonanza many are expecting, if the owners have made the sensible calculation that we might go out in the group stage. Our income is still far lower than the Sky Six. It’ll take a few years to justify the ramping up of sponsorship money. Also - and this is one quite a few don’t seem to want to accept - the PIF having vast cash reserves doesn’t necessarily mean that they fancy pouring a chunk of it into NUFC for shits and giggles. I think they see this as an investment - and investments need returns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: Also - and this is one quite a few don’t seem to want to accept - the PIF having vast cash reserves doesn’t necessarily mean that they fancy pouring a chunk of it into NUFC for shits and giggles. I think they see this as an investment - and investments need returns. I'm not sure this is entirely accurate. Think the idea is that by 2030 they want to have a lot of very valuable, profitable assets and are willing to burn through a lot of their cash in the meantime to make sure those assets are top notch. I think a lot of it probably comes down to Ashworth's philosophy. Just don't get the feeling that he wants a bunch of high profile, expensive signings. Isaks and Botmans all the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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