Jaqen Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Merson was saying West Ham should sell Payet for £30m and buy Martial for £20m last week as well. Must be back on the beak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 He's honestly never once said anything I've agreed with. Even Danny Murphy gets the odd thing right. Merson could tell me that the sky is blue and I'd check, he's truly the high water-mark in thick as fuck football punditry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 tbf I question Silva's knowledge of the premier league purely on the basis of the fact he took the Hull job in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 think of the amount of thick as shit cunts that merson will appeal to though, there will be countless people watching that at the time agreeing in not-so-silent outrage at inglishmen being denied jobs because of cut-price foreign workers doing it on the cheap absolutely no doubt about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 It's a proven fact that foreign managers are better than British managers. I was watching it on Saturday and couldn't believe what I was seeing or hearing - hope Hull go on a mini run now and win a few matches so it can shut him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Is there really a difference? We see more successful foreign managers here because it's the PL, they come from all over. Go to Italy and I bet there are hundreds of absolutely shite managers. Nationality shouldn't come in to it, get the best man for the job no matter where he's from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Didn't see any of them complaining when Gary Neville got a job with one of the biggest clubs in Spain with much worse credentials Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 English/British based managers don't get much opportunity. That is correct. Which leads them to being rubbish. They also don't take jobs when they should to help make opportunities. Would Giggs have taken the Reading job in the summer? Doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Also too much money in punditry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 English/British based managers don't get much opportunity. Based on what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Is there really a difference? We see more successful foreign managers here because it's the PL, they come from all over. Go to Italy and I bet there are hundreds of absolutely shite managers. Nationality shouldn't come in to it, get the best man for the job no matter where he's from. In Italy if you finish 17th playing abysmal football like Allardyce you don't get lauded for it, you get sacked. The shit is filtered away far more efficiently, which is one of the reasons we're about to see the 4th different Italian manager in 7 years win the PL. Never been done by an English manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Well that's a problem with the dire state of punditry in this country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Italian managers are historically the best in the game and certainly in the Premier League era. Although Italian football isn't what it once was, culturally I think their game develops the best thinkers when it comes to coaching and managing. Our game just doesn't develop real thinkers. Just look at our footballers, they are often thick as fuck. Punditry in this country is abysmal, half of them can't even speak properly. Paul Merson anyone? Those that do go into management get jobs based on who they know or their name and reputation and should things go wrong which they often do, they jump back on the gravy train. Pardew would never get a top-flight job with his record in say Serie A. Mark Hughes and Pulis are considered top British managers and yet for me they are bang average and I'd be massively disappointed if say NUFC were to ever appoint either. Its a catch 22 thing, however, because the money involved means managers and clubs will do almost anything to stay afloat and that means not taking risks and signing cloggers. It needn't be that way though. Hull have for me made a brave appointment as have Swansea. They may well go down, but they are thinking outside of the box. Ironically, Bruce would have probably kept Hull up had he stayed and was given money to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Italian managers are historically the best in the game and certainly in the Premier League era. Scottish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Nobody seems to ever come through from grass roots and you've no chance if you haven't played the game. Several thousand pounds to do your badges and the likes of Ian Cathro getting shot with shit because he didn't play at a certain level. I know school teachers, sparkys and binmen who would be able to speak more eloquently and be able to impart more knowledge because they have an eye for the game and crucially the ability to explain things to people in terms they understand with objective and rationale. Look at the plight of cunts like Merson, Pardew et al. jobs for the boys wankers who can get be perma-pissed, bankrupt, morally bankrupt and utter shit and spiting bile; kicking the fingers of others on the ladder trying to get up from the bottom, yet are immune to or spared any consequence seemingly. I don't know enough about coaching in other leagues to know how pally it is, can't be any worse than in Britain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Fergie's the best Premiership manager but across world football during the same time we've had Ancelotti, Capello, Mancini, Conte, Sacchi, Lippi and loads more I'll have missed. They produce an absurd amount of top managers tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 God that clip of Merse and Thompson going off got my blood boiling. What utter pile of donkey shit the pair of them are. Hope Hull go on a good run now and that clip put the idiots to shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Italian managers are historically the best in the game and certainly in the Premier League era. Scottish? Nah, Italian managers are the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Italian managers are historically the best in the game and certainly in the Premier League era. Scottish? Nah, Italian managers are the best. fair dos- was just thinking 14/23 titles, but see what yr getting at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Our game is basically Brexit. Popular as fuck, but fucking dumb and full of fucking morons who don't have a clue. The culture of our game is all wrong, from how we watch it in our stadiums, how we bring our kids up to watch it and play it, how we coach and how we play as adults. We value hard work, tackling and pashun and therefore end up with players like Jordan Henderson as England captain and Southgate as manager. Meanwhile Paul Merson gives his expert opinion so that the nation can be informed every weekend about the beautiful game. English football is the most popular brand of the game in the entire world and yet English footballers and English teams are fucking shit and so our the managers and coaches. Foreign is best! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Italian managers are historically the best in the game and certainly in the Premier League era. Scottish? Nah, Italian managers are the best. fair dos- was just thinking 14/23 titles, but see what yr getting at. Fergie is the best manager in the history of the PL and arguably the history of the British game and you could argue the history of the game itself. But he is one man. Historically the best managers have either came from Italy or been inspired by Italian football. Gullit for example was a success at Cheslea and while Dutch, he played most of his football in Italy. Sven for England also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 No Kante in the Fifa FIFPro XI? Shameful. Neueur Alves Ramos Pique Marcelo Iniesta Kroos Modric Ronaldo Suarez Messi Didn't think Suarez would get a look in after being snubbed last year. Think Bonucci and Kante definitley deserved to be in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Nice to see Suarez finally get the recognition he deserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Nice to see Suarez finally get the recognition he deserves. Would prefer it if the recognition he received was a shattered femur tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Surprised there wasn't at least a token Mahrez or Vardy selection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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